Brian Ellis
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you do criticize them you'll be
a mile away and you'll have their shoes.
Yes, its amazing how little Americans know about Shanghai either.
Just saying...
Kodak in the 21st century is not the Kodak of the past, with Kodachrome, the best IR sheet film, the first readily available superspeed RE 2475, countless special order and scientific films and plates, a tremendous variety of fine paper (how I loved a refrigerated stash of Medalist!), and a few excellent cameras for that film. True, they did have some marketing idiocies, like spindly 620 spools in the cavernous Medalist camera. The Ilford products I've used have been good, but the range of Kodak film, paper, and equipment was greater than I ever saw from Ilford. Perhaps, if Ilford had marketed in America like Kodak marketed to the World, we would appreciate her better.
My education with Ilford sheets began with repackaged FP-4+ from Freestyle and PW. Its very good stuff indeed. It still is. And it is readily available.
Kodak was the corporate flagship of innovation and quality before it was the sinking raft it is today.
If Ilford marketed in America like Kodak marketed to the world, sadly, we'd likely have niether!
"I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority"---EB White
The loss of jobs is not a good thing and I agree with this. Sad state. When you work for a company you should not be blinded by the hype that they are to big to fail. The writing was on the wall for Kodak for a long time and the employees should have seen the ship sinking. Get off unless you are the captain! They gave up on us some time ago and I gave up on them as well.
As far as i know Kodak still makes film and they do that to the best of their ability so, to say that they gave up on us is a little bit of a stretch from reality.
We can disagree about the way they opperate their business because it is so easy to disagree sitting at the 10th row as most of do.
As long as Kodak makes film i will continue to buy it because there are in my opinion no better film and by buying Kodak products i help in my little way to keep the good Kodak people employed.
Not to offend anybody, but I would say that it would be about the time to move this thread to 'Lounge' as it started as film-stashing and turned into endless bashing. No usable 'Business' information or discussion to be found here. Sorry.
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