Epson P800 or Colorbyte Image Print

[IanBarber]

The K inks in Epson printers are carbon black and very warm in tone

I thought the oem inks were pigment, is this not the case

[sanking]

I thought the oem inks were pigment, is this not the case

Of course. Carbon black is the most permanent pigment. The use of the other pigments gives a print that is more likely to fade over time than using only carbon black.

Sandy

[IanBarber]

Of course. Carbon black is the most permanent pigment. The use of the other pigments gives a print that is more likely to fade over time than using only carbon black.

Sandy

Ah, so from you are saying, its quite possible that Colorbyte are doing some mixing of other colors which the ABW is not.

I have looked at the Print Tool but my understanding is that you need to use the QTR curves unless I am mistaken. The supplied curves are quite sparse and I only own the ColorMinki device which is not capable of making such curves I believe

[sanking]

Ah, so from you are saying, its quite possible that Colorbyte are doing some mixing of other colors which the ABW is not.

I have looked at the Print Tool but my understanding is that you need to use the QTR curves unless I am mistaken. The supplied curves are quite sparse and I only own the ColorMinki device which is not capable of making such curves I believe

I am certain that Colorbyte is mixing in other colors. No way to get a neutral tone without the other colors as carbon black is warm black in tone.

You could use the Print Tool to print with either the Epson driver or with QuadToneRIP. However, to print with QTR you do need a QTR profile. I have used both an iOne and Spyder Print to produce profiles for QTR, but know nothing about the ColorMunki.

Sandy

[IanBarber]

You could use the Print Tool to print with either the Epson driver or with QuadToneRIP.Sandy

Sandy, if I was to use the Print Tool with the ABW driver, am I not going down the same route as if I was to simply use the ABW on its own or is the Print Tool doing something else ?

[sanking]

Sandy, if I was to use the Print Tool with the ABW driver, am I not going down the same route as if I was to simply use the ABW on its own or is the Print Tool doing something else ?

The Print Tool has some very nifty features and I prefer to use it even when printing with the Epson driver. The canvas page in particular is useful as it allows you to print several images on the same panel, and size and move them around as you like. However, its main feature for my work is that it allows me to print with No Color Management, essential for printing with QTR.

In terms of the issue you address, however, you can use ABW through either PS or the Print Tool and the end result is the same. If what you are after is neutral tone B&W prints you will have to get that with a RIP, or by adjusting image tone in PS or in whatever image software you are using.

Sandy