I'm getting color negatives from Rodinal!

[mikez]

Here are the details I posted on APUG:

http://www.apug.org/forums/forum40/6...-c41-blix.html

[Greg Blank]

since no one is actually answering the question....

C41 & e6 first developers are just b&w developer like d76
nothing fancy. Without the color developer is why your getting low density color.

Very cool, I develop Velvia in Rodinal and color bleach/fixer, and I get color negatives! The colors are low in saturation which gives a black-and-white look, except with colors. How is this possible, when the color developer is not used?

[IanG]

since no one is actually answering the question....

C41 & e6 first developers are just b&w developer like d76
nothing fancy. Without the color developer is why your getting low density color.

Wrong E6 first developer is a B&W developer, but C41 developer is a colour developer.

Ian

[D. Bryant]

since no one is actually answering the question....

C41 & e6 first developers are just b&w developer like d76
nothing fancy.

No they are not.

[Greg Blank]

Your correct.

Wrong E6 first developer is a B&W developer, but C41 developer is a colour developer.

Ian

[Greg Blank]

E6 is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-6_process

The steps for developing color transparency films using process E6 are:
First developer bath: 6:00 @ 100 °F/38 °C. This uses a potassium hydroquinone monosulfate - phenidone black & white film developer, with the preferred form of phenidone being 4-hydroxymethyl-4-methyl-1-phenyl-3-pyrazolidinone (13047-13-7). The first developer forms a negative silver image in each layer of the film. The first developer is time and temperature sensitive because it controls contrast.[2]

C41 is not....but most likely contains the reducing in the developer and also color developers as one step. My error and I admit it.

No they are not.