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Thread: Wanderlust 4x5 P&S

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    Re: Wanderlust 4x5 P&S

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Kellogg View Post
    Now that's funny! Of course, there is that pesky issue of film holders vs 35mm canisters. Hmm, I wonder if a modern, lightweight, improved Grafmatic back could be built. It would be great to have a ten or twelve sheet magazine. ;-)

    Nah, forget that idea, too fiddly, I'll just stash some film holders in my wife's bag. Maybe she won't notice.
    My Favourite scene in "Eiger Sanction". Clint and George are training and make a hard climb up a sheer desert pinnacle. When they get to the top Clint offers George a beer. George says "Are you crazy? You carried beers all the way up here?". Clint reaches into George's pack, pulls out two beers, and says "No, you did."

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    Wanderlust 4x5 P&S

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Meisburger View Post
    My Favourite scene in "Eiger Sanction". Clint and George are training and make a hard climb up a sheer desert pinnacle. When they get to the top Clint offers George a beer. George says "Are you crazy? You carried beers all the way up here?". Clint reaches into George's pack, pulls out two beers, and says "No, you did."
    LOL. The odds of my getting away with it are pretty slim. Ever since I made her carry a small tripod around on one of her last trips, she has resisted carrying any camera gear. Still, if I carry three holders and she carries three holders, it will be twelve shots, a big day for me in terms of LF. I shoot 35mm much faster than LF.

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    Re: Wanderlust 4x5 P&S

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Kellogg View Post
    LOL. My chances of getting away with it are pretty slim. Ever since I made her carry a small tripod around on one of her last trips, she has resisted carrying any camera gear. Still, if I carry three holders and she carries three holders, it will be twelve shots, a big day for me in terms of LF. I shoot 35mm much faster than LF.
    Faster? Absolutely.
    Better? I don't. My percentage of what I consider successful photos goes up using 5x7 or 8x10 goes up, compared to 35mm.

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    Wanderlust 4x5 P&S

    Quote Originally Posted by cdholden View Post
    Faster? Absolutely.
    Better? I don't. My percentage of what I consider successful photos goes up using 5x7 or 8x10 goes up, compared to 35mm.
    I just find them to be different, and suited for different purposes. I use 35mm for dynamic situations on the street, and large format for more considered compositions that tend to be static.

    I shoot more 35mm than large format so more of the shots I find successful are from my 35mm work. I'm glad I haven't given up 35mm for large format as I would had missed a lot of photographs as a result.

    I don't know yet where the TravelWide fits into my shooting style but I think it is for slower, more careful shooting where I use a tripod, think more about metering, and use the zone system with necessary adjustments in development time. After all, sheet film allows us to adjust the development of every shot based on the contrast of the scene. This is just not possible with 35mm, obviously.

    Still, maybe you guys will show me a bunch of cool street shots taken with the TravelWide. How long can I walk around with the dark slide pulled out? If I have to pull the dark slide before shooting, the moment is probably gone.

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    Re: Wanderlust 4x5 P&S

    [QUOTE=Larry Kellogg;1257003

    Still, maybe you guys will show me a bunch of cool street shots taken with the TravelWide. How long can I walk around with the dark slide pulled out? If I have to pull the dark slide before shooting, the moment is probably gone.[/QUOTE]

    I'm really interested to know about the experience with the 90mm version. Focusing will still be important and zone focusing may be tough. If it's decent then I'd love to use it for 6x12 and 4x5 street photography. There's always this element to street that is about surprise and you just can't do that with a tripod and the critical work normally put into 4x5.

    I want to add a camera strap to this guy and take him to china town!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JChrome View Post
    I'm really interested to know about the experience with the 90mm version. Focusing will still be important and zone focusing may be tough. If it's decent then I'd love to use it for 6x12 and 4x5 street photography. There's always this element to street that is about surprise and you just can't do that with a tripod and the critical work normally put into 4x5.

    I want to add a camera strap to this guy and take him to china town!
    Yeah, I think you're right, zone focusing is going to be tough, I don't see it being better than my Leica. I think using a tripod will yield the best results. I'll be using a GorillaPod plastic tripod with a ball head.

    I'm very curious to see what people will do with this camera.

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    Re: Wanderlust 4x5 P&S

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Kellogg View Post
    Yeah, I think you're right, zone focusing is going to be tough, I don't see it being better than my Leica. I think using a tripod will yield the best results. I'll be using a GorillaPod plastic tripod with a ball head.

    I'm very curious to see what people will do with this camera.
    I'm not really all to familiar with all the right terminology, but is zone focusing using an accessory rangefinder (cold shoe mount) to figure out how far your subject is and then dialing that in on the helical?

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    Re: Wanderlust 4x5 P&S

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Puccio View Post
    I'm not really all to familiar with all the right terminology, but is zone focusing using an accessory rangefinder (cold shoe mount) to figure out how far your subject is and then dialing that in on the helical?
    Zone focusing is your best guess as to what the distance to your subject will be and then putting that on the lens. I suppose the rangefinder accessory will help but I wonder how effective it will be.

    Dying to have someone review it.

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    Re: Wanderlust 4x5 P&S

    Quote Originally Posted by JChrome View Post
    Zone focusing is your best guess as to what the distance to your subject will be and then putting that on the lens. I suppose the rangefinder accessory will help but I wonder how effective it will be.

    Dying to have someone review it.
    I have a mechanical rangefinder, but not sure there is much to review. They work; giving you a reasonable to exact distance measurement (depending on the sophistication of the device) that can be transferred to the lens helical. The question is exactly how exact do you need to be.

    Schneider has a downloadable spreadsheet here.

    From what I can see, if I shoot at f8 and focus at 50ft, I'm "acceptably sharp" between 20ft and infinity. Of course "acceptably sharp" is subject to individual circumstances and opinion. I believe the chart assumes the following definition of hyperfocal distance from wikipedia: "The hyperfocal distance is the closest distance at which a lens can be focused while keeping objects at infinity acceptably sharp. When the lens is focused at this distance, all objects at distances from half of the hyperfocal distance out to infinity will be acceptably sharp."

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    Re: Wanderlust 4x5 P&S

    All of my Leica lenses have a focusing scale on them. For my 35mm Lux, @f/11, setting the infinity mark to f/11 will give me everything reasonably sharp from 6 feet to infinity.

    Does anybody have the focusing scales for the lenses in question? They must publish them somewhere. Also, we're supposed to be receiving some brass shims to set the close distance point for the 65mm. I would want that pretty close for street work.

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