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    Buying Color Perfect Vs farting around with vuescan?

    Im just starting scanning my C41 negatives. Ive gotten great B/W Results with vuescan, but I'm not thrilled with the color.

    Should I just bite the bullet and get Color Perfect for converting the negatives? or is there a more efficient vuescan workflow?

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    Re: Buying Color Perfect Vs farting around with vuescan?

    Try the free version which will add lines to your scan but at least you'll know what to expect.

    I find color perfect to be the best and it is near flawless in all auto mode for ektar. I have to tweak Portra a bit afterwards but it comes really close.

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    Re: Buying Color Perfect Vs farting around with vuescan?

    See my post just yesterday on my experience on using Silverfast.

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    Re: Buying Color Perfect Vs farting around with vuescan?

    Everything that color perfect does can be relatively easy replicated by curves in PS. CP is just a plugin which uses the data loaded into PS.
    Use it on a copy of your neg scanned as positive in demo to produce a reference if you wish and then invert your original and go for the same look with a few curves layers - one for dark point, one for white point, one for tones and one for white balance fine tuning.

    SergeyT.

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    Color Perfect plugin has significantly improved my scans. Scanning raw in Vuescan and then converting Portra 160 with it, the negatives are are almost always looking good with minimal photoshop corrections. Never had luck working with Silverfast.

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    Re: Buying Color Perfect Vs farting around with vuescan?

    Quote Originally Posted by SergeyT View Post
    Everything that color perfect does can be relatively easy replicated by curves in PS. CP is just a plugin which uses the data loaded into PS.
    Use it on a copy of your neg scanned as positive in demo to produce a reference if you wish and then invert your original and go for the same look with a few curves layers - one for dark point, one for white point, one for tones and one for white balance fine tuning.

    SergeyT.
    I tested this years ago and came to the same conclusion. Maybe it does something special now?
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    Re: Buying Color Perfect Vs farting around with vuescan?

    Yes I have found the color conversion in Color Perfect to be really good and sometimes better than what I can manage on my own. However, I rarely use it because of what it does to my workflow.

    My normal workflow looks like this:

    1. Scan with Epson scan software, individual frames -> TIFF
    2. Import into Lightroom
    3. Edit as desired
    4. Export

    Using Color Perfect, it starts to look like this:

    1. Scan with Vuescan, strips of frames -> Raw TIFF (Because Vuescan sucks so badly at scanning multiple frames)
    2. Open with Photoshop Elements, crop each individual frame and put it into a new file
    3. Run ColorPerfect on each file
    4. Save each file as TIFF
    5. Import into Lightroom
    6. Edit as desired
    7. Export

    Steps 2-4 are incredibly time consuming. I hate digital editing to begin with so I rarely bother.

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    Re: Buying Color Perfect Vs farting around with vuescan?

    I tried Color Perfect some time ago and found it fiddly. When I do scan color neg (w/VueScan) I check each of the installed profiles to see which looks best and then save the TIFF file. Once in Photo Shop, I save the file a *.PSD.

    Works for me.

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    Re: Buying Color Perfect Vs farting around with vuescan?

    Check out the Vuescan advanced workflow for establishing the film base color for color negative film. It works well and does a good job removing the case colour.

    Vuescan does suck at scanning multiple frames even on my LS-8000. The original Nikon software was very good and could automatically find the frames in a strip of 120. Not sure why Vuescan can't. It also doesn't handle inconsistent spacing on 120. I pretty much scan one frame at a time, except for 35mm.
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    Re: Buying Color Perfect Vs farting around with vuescan?

    What scanner do you use?

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