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    Re: Excessively sharp lenses

    You must have been typing as I edited. I was rude with the end of that. My apologies for that.

    Vaseline definitely isn't a substitute for any kind of diffusion. It's far too heavy and it's just not possible to apply without streaking. It's a special effect. Kind of unfortunate we're talking about it so much.


    One really old DP I worked for a couple times had a trick for closeups of women. He would look through the viewfinder and have one of us assistants put a fingerprint on the lens or on the filter right where the face would be in frame. You could cover a filter with fingerprints. Just watch the light that falls on that filter. It'll be really ugly flare.

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    Re: Excessively sharp lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by C. D. Keth View Post
    You must have been typing as I edited. I was rude with the end of that. My apologies for that.

    Vaseline definitely isn't a substitute for any kind of diffusion. It's far too heavy and it's just not possible to apply without streaking. It's a special effect. Kind of unfortunate we're talking about it so much.
    Haha no worries

    Perhaps I'll see you on set sometime, I REALLY want to join the 600 for stills, I have my Jacobson Blimp already, but it's such a closed market, so I've been looking at camera PA but the pay is such a cut for me to get in its hard to take that time.

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    Re: Excessively sharp lenses

    Haas anyone brought up nylon panty hose? Thats a pretty good diffuser.
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    Re: Excessively sharp lenses

    I'm not sure why you don't want to "tone it down" in the darkroom but FWIW I had a Leica lens years ago that I thought was too sharp for some portraits and other people-pictures. I dealt with the problem by dividing the enlarging exposure time between time with a soft focus filter (Nikon) under the lens for part of the time and no filter the rest of time. I liked this system because it gave so much control - too soft? decrease time with the filter - too sharp? increase time with the filter.
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    Re: Excessively sharp lenses

    Brian, it seems I do the digital extension of that when I have to diffuse something a little bit in photoshop. I place a copy of the original image over all the other layers. I then blur it and lower its opacity depending on how much of the softness I want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Ellis View Post
    I'm not sure why you don't want to "tone it down" in the darkroom but FWIW I had a Leica lens years ago that I thought was too sharp for some portraits and other people-pictures. I dealt with the problem by dividing the enlarging exposure time between time with a soft focus filter (Nikon) under the lens for part of the time and no filter the rest of time. I liked this system because it gave so much control - too soft? decrease time with the filter - too sharp? increase time with the filter.
    That's an old trick which can give beautiful results.
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    Re: Excessively sharp lenses

    I just kick my tripod leg.

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    Re: Excessively sharp lenses

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianShaw View Post
    I just kick my tripod leg.
    That never gives me the highlight glow that I like.

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    Thanks to everyone for replies! I am going to Perú and really wish I could take the4x5 ! Maybe some of the Fomapan films-more grain?

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    For a trip like that, I'd shoot them sharp and soften if you wish in printing. I'd hate to get back and wish your negstives were sharper.

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