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Thread: Standard "Print Viewing Distance" Myth.

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    Drew Wiley
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    Re: Standard "Print Viewing Distance" Myth.

    "Standard viewing distance" is a shorthand expression for, "heck ... I want to make a really
    big print out of a really tiny neg or digital file, so you need to back away from the damn
    smudge in order to appreciate it". Normal viewing distance for a billboard, for example, is a quarter of a mile. One thing I like about LF is that people can get right smack up to
    a big print and start discovering all kinds of hidden details.

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    Re: Standard "Print Viewing Distance" Myth.

    Standard Viewing Distance, in my experience, is a metric for making comparisons in the same manner between different formats and media. It was an engineering thing, and never an aesthetic measure.

    As mentioned above, it is useful in graphics, especially book and magazine printing where the maximum size is a strict reality. Never mind the Playboy fold-outs.

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    Re: Standard "Print Viewing Distance" Myth.

    "Standard viewing distance" is a shorthand expression for, "heck ... I want to make a really
    big print out of a really tiny neg or digital file, so you need to back away from the damn
    smudge in order to appreciate it".
    Nailed it!

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    Re: Standard "Print Viewing Distance" Myth.

    Presbyopia, myopia, billboard ladders and velvet ropes are not insurmountable obstacles, although I honor the latter. The only limitations I observe as a rule have to do with image corruption (e.g. nose oil and the moisture of exhalation).

    Or perhaps 180-DPI printers are the new pointillists.

    Funny Drew !

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    Re: Standard "Print Viewing Distance" Myth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher D. Keth View Post
    I don't have the vision problems but I have the same viewing habits. I'm that guy who always gets rebuked once or twice at any museum for getting too close and making them nervous.
    And I thought I was the only one!

    The only thing that could be considered standard viewing distance for me is that distance that works to view the whole work comfortably. Detailed inspection does not come into it. If the picture on the wall is a 10x8, I would anticipate an arm's length initial viewing distance. With really big prints I find some galleries are not big enough and I have to scan the work to take it in.

    I do think you have to trust the author will stand by the presentation. If you don't like the rendition, that is fair too.

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    Re: Standard "Print Viewing Distance" Myth.

    Quote Originally Posted by John Olsen View Post
    I'm near-sighted and frequently lift my glasses and press closer to artwork. That way I can appreciate the details of a painter's brushstrokes or a photographer's focus and resolution.
    Me too!


    Steve.

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    Re: Standard "Print Viewing Distance" Myth.

    I'm more curious as to what prompted the OP to post this manifesto. (Who cares? Specific criticism? Do tell.)

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    Re: Standard "Print Viewing Distance" Myth.

    What bothered me most about Kirk's original post was the phrase, "get away with." When I decide to make a photograph, or whether to try a new material or process, my objective is to make the best photographs that I can; everything is subservient to that goal. I know that Kirk and practically every other photographer who participates in this forum feels the same way. But, and here is this old fart's rant, it seems that elsewhere, "good enough" is all that many photographers aspire to. I wonder when doing just enough to "get away with" became acceptable. Is it the great democratization of photography that digital equipment has allowed, that anyone with the means to buy a digital camera thinks that is all that is required to produce excellent photographs? Is it the easy access to filters and other software to produce effects that emulate film photographs?

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    Re: Standard "Print Viewing Distance" Myth.

    Nothing has changed. Tons of horrible photos have always been taken. There is a skewing
    at the moment for even the "experts" to evaluate activity using the damned web, and
    with it, perhaps a more conspicuous decline in what people are willing to accept in a frame
    on a wall. On the other hand, more and more folks are getting into desktop color printing,
    and out of this a few will catch the spark. There are other fads, like printing real real big;
    but that will pass. I'm not worried. I set my own standards.

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    Re: Standard "Print Viewing Distance" Myth.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianShaw View Post
    I feel like an idiot, but why not let everyone know: What the heck is "IME"? IDK, but I H8 this text-talk. WTF? IMHO it should get 86d and real English should prevail.
    In My Experience

    I Don't Know

    Oh yeah, High Defininition Television! Sounds like you already know what WTF means.

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    Now, to stay with the thread...............If I see someone sticking their nose up to one of my 11x14 prints (not yet made a 16x20), I'll let them finish and then politely provide them with my opinion that, for that size print, you're waaaaaaaaaay too close.

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