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    Re: Theoretical digital sensor equivalent to 8x10?

    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post
    ... But even if it were on par - there always will be certain "something" about film photography. Nostalgic element that would keep pulling people in.

    And there is different look from different sensors and CPUs on digital cameras.. Its less now when Sony dominated dSLR sensor world but its still there. More so between Dalsa and Kodak in Leaf / Phase One / Pentax in MFdb world. Could be almost nullified by PPs of course.
    Same as comparing one film to another film. Each film has its own "something". And each person needs to shoot each film to know how they stack up for them personally. Nothing new with digital.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Miller View Post
    Same as comparing one film to another film. Each film has its own "something". And each person needs to shoot each film to know how they stack up for them personally. Nothing new with digital.
    Absolutely Magic bullet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh View Post
    Huh? Don't know where you got that. Sounds like advertising hype.

    A pixel sensor is a physical structure that includes a lens, the active sensor element, and electrical connections.

    An image forming element in film is a cluster of molecules.

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    I typically scan my 8x10 film at 2400 ppi, so the 8" side is 8 * 2400 = 19,200 pixels, and the 10" side is 24,000 pixels.

    The image area is therefore 19,200 * 24,000 = 460,800,000 (461 Megapixels).

    A good drum scan @ 9600 ppi = 8 * 9600 * 10 * 9600 = 7,373 Megapixels = 7.4 Gigapixels.

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    No one in their right mind sum scans 8x10 firm @ 9600 PPI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post
    Absolutely Magic bullet
    Huh?

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    Re: Theoretical digital sensor equivalent to 8x10?

    Quote Originally Posted by D. Bryant View Post
    No one in their right mind sum scans 8x10 firm @ 9600 PPI.
    No, that would be the left mind that does that. The right mind uses an old thrift store Diana camera.

    But anyway, it is a question I have gotten asked out in the field with my 8x10 a few times (usually in Yosemite Valley). So I will answer "Between a third and a half gig." May or may not be 'correct', but it will sound impressive!

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    There are no technological " Magic bullet (s)"... that can ever replace human creativity, skill of their craft and sense of artistic expression.

    There appears to be a belief that more megapixles or larger film size will provide the special magical widget that will create great expressive images... Simply NOT true.

    Film will result from a different image than digital, this is built into the foundation of each technology. Regardless of the digital post processing, number crunching or any other means of data alterations.

    Accept each for their strengths, problems, limitations and possibilities as they are just another tool in the imaging tool box.

    For a very long time there has been a lot of resources and expertise to try and make video look like film. This included highly complex anti aliasing filtering built into the video electronics system and optics (special lenses which are really expensive built by Fujinon, Canon, Angenieux and.. that incorporated part of the anti aliasing filtering) none of these system were able to completely duplicate the look of film.

    To this day, the debate of electronic imaging -vs- film rages on in the video and cine world.

    Part of the difference comes down to the basic physics of how film -vs- digital image sensors function...


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    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post
    Absolutely Magic bullet

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    Well said, Bernice.

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    Consider the instant gratification of digital imaging -vs- film... and if the image created does not meet the expectations of it's creator, the image is erased and more taken in an effort to meet the creators expectation.

    This could be another reason why so many image creators are lured into the fantasy of using digital / electronic imaging to meet all their imaging needs and every expectation..



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    Re: Theoretical digital sensor equivalent to 8x10?

    Quote Originally Posted by SergeiR View Post
    Ah.. the joy of comparing digital to film.. We at it again
    If it's an informed discussion, it will be different every year! Digital technology changes at an incredible rate. The pros / cons and cost / benefit of using one medium over the other are constantly shifting.

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