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Thread: Sinar P Question. Which 8x10 Standard Bearer is more sturdy?

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    Re: Sinar P Question. Which 8x10 Standard Bearer is more sturdy?

    Thank you for all the above info. Here is what confuses me. Was there an actual Special Standard bearer for the Sinar P specifically?
    433.52.000 Special Standard bearer seems to be the listed for P2. That is what I'm told I have here. It has only geared movements for focusing and rise/fall. It has a lock on the upper plate for swing movements that are not geared and the tilt movements are also a lock release with no geared movements. Here's a back and side view of it. Sorry for the blur and darkness.

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    Re: Sinar P Question. Which 8x10 Standard Bearer is more sturdy?

    Not sure about this after seeing your images. P parts are clear anodized while P2, X, C and F parts are black anodized according to my Sinar documentation.

    Appears to me your bearer is comprised of multiple series parts. I have both a P with non-metered back and a P2 with metered back, both 8x10 ... The bearers are geared and equally sturdy.

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    Re: Sinar P Question. Which 8x10 Standard Bearer is more sturdy?

    Well.. That is certainly not the 8x10 Heavy Duty that I use.

    Never seen a bearer like that. I can see omitting the other gears to save weight or cost but it seems strange to do it for sturdiness.

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    Re: Sinar P Question. Which 8x10 Standard Bearer is more sturdy?

    Thanks guys. Rudi I think you answered my question on sturdiness. I have the option to return this and I think I am going to.
    By the way, this is some kind of 8x10 because it does line up properly, however it seems strange to me to not have the other gears. Why would they exclude them.
    By the way, I was told that this is a 433.52.000 Special Standard bearer. You guys disagree right?

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    Re: Sinar P Question. Which 8x10 Standard Bearer is more sturdy?

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    Re: Sinar P Question. Which 8x10 Standard Bearer is more sturdy?

    This is from a Sinar Code brochure dated 1981 and shows the difference between the P "rear standard bearer" and the P "rear special standard bearer." The same movements are geared.

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    Re: Sinar P Question. Which 8x10 Standard Bearer is more sturdy?

    Thank you Jonathan. I couldn't find this info anywhere in my searches so far.
    From what I understand about the standard in my pictures, it may be from 1986 onward.

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    Re: Sinar P Question. Which 8x10 Standard Bearer is more sturdy?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Fink Jr. View Post
    Thanks guys. Rudi I think you answered my question on sturdiness. I have the option to return this and I think I am going to.
    By the way, this is some kind of 8x10 because it does line up properly, however it seems strange to me to not have the other gears. Why would they exclude them.
    By the way, I was told that this is a 433.52.000 Special Standard bearer. You guys disagree right?


    This is from a Sinar Code brochure dated 1985 and shows the P2 "rear standard bearer" 433.51 and "rear special standard bearer" 433.52. What you have does not look like part 433.52 and is not for the P2.


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    Re: Sinar P Question. Which 8x10 Standard Bearer is more sturdy?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Fink Jr. View Post
    Thank you Jonathan. I couldn't find this info anywhere in my searches so far.
    From what I understand about the standard in my pictures, it may be from 1986 onward.

    Was the P still being made in 1986?

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    Re: Sinar P Question. Which 8x10 Standard Bearer is more sturdy?

    Jonathan, I can't thank you enough!!!! This indicates that what I have here is not a 433.52 at all!!

    Thank you so much to everyone who helped me out on this!!!
    Feel free to add to this if you can.

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