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    dilemma on lenses

    Hi everybody,
    i am new to this forum as well as to large format.
    In my younger days, i did quite a lot of bw photo and worked in the darkroom. and as it often happens, i took up my old interst and has very quickly upgraded into large format.
    I do not know how it happens, but i seem to run into a lot of inexpensive LF equipment, i want it all, but i think it is best for me to keep it simple, at the beginning at least.

    i am in a bit of a dilemma, somewhat luxorious i admit, i have these lenses:

    rodenstock apo ronar f 5,6 by 360 mm on compur shutter
    schneider kreutznach f 5,6 by 135 mm on compur
    schneider kreutznach super angulon f8 by 90 mm on compur

    and have the opportunity to aquire following at realative low cost:

    rodenstock sironar N f5,6 by 210 mm on copal shutter
    rodenstock sironar N f5,6 by 150 mm on copal
    rodenstock grandagon N f 4,5 by 90 mm. on copal

    i have a sinar norma 4x5.
    as i am very new to LF, i am not shure what my line of pichtures will be in the end.
    Therefore i am looking for a set of 3-4 lenses to cover LF in general.

    Do you have any suggestions ??
    klaus
    denmark

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    Re: dilemma on lenses

    Velkommen Klaus!

    Prices in Denmark are very low as there are very few buyers and ex-studio lenses sets like these have been at a realistically low prices for a long time. Perhaps we are getting to end of clearouts now, though?

    It is worth checking the shutters as non-use in the last decade could have created some problems.
    Check e**y "sold prices" and buy all 6 if you have some space between prices there and the prices you have to pay locally.
    The sinar is a good starting point if you go in the direction of classic, historical lenses - where the option of a sinar/copal shutter creates freedom.

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    Re: dilemma on lenses

    A standard 3 lens set would be a 90mm, 135mm, and 210mm. I would go with the Rodenstock set (150 instead of 135), and add the 360mm, but all of the lenses you mention will be nice.

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    Re: dilemma on lenses

    Velkommen Indeed!

    The 210mm will fit right in with what you already own so that would be my first choice. The difference in field of view between the 150 and 135mm lenses is small. A couple of paces or so at best. The 90mm Grandagon might, and I stress might, be a better choice than your 90 Super Angulon, depending on condition, price, what you could get for the Super Angulon if you buy the Grandagon, etc.

    As Steve suggests, check the shutters at all speeds. Where I live shutter repair, even CLA, is not cheap.

    By the way, I live in Solvang, California, essentially "Denmark West!".

    JD

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    Re: dilemma on lenses

    Buy the 90mm f4.5 Grandagon-N and the 210mm f5.6 Sironar-N and sell the 90mm f8 Super-Angulon. That gives you a 90mm, 135mm, 210mm and 360mm lens progression. The only issue would be the 135mm vs. the 150mm. All other things being equal, if I did not have the Schneider, I would go for the Rodenstock for consistency. Actually, since you already have the Schneider 135mm, I do not think the change to the Rodenstock would be worth the effort and I like the 135mm better, anyway.

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    Re: dilemma on lenses

    Welcome.

    Where in Dk are you located. (we could maybe meet and you could see some other choises...)

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    Re: dilemma on lenses

    Brand consistency has never really been important to me. I can't seem to tell the difference in the pictures. My technique and the scene before me dictates my outcomes more than the brand of the lens by a factor of about a thousand.

    But the 90/4.5 will be easier to focus and compose than the 90/8, and that makes it a worthy trade in my view, if the price is right.

    135 vs. 150 is a personal call. Get both and sell the one you never use. You'll probably get what you paid, so it's a free trial.

    A 210 is a good lens to have, especially given your current wide gap between 135 and 360. I use my 210 a lot, but the next shorter lens I usually carry is a 121 (I have a 180, but usually don't carry it). The next longer lens I carry is a 305, but I don't have a 360.

    Rick "enjoy your Norma" Denney

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    Re: dilemma on lenses

    I would buy the lenses with the best glass and shutters, based on condition. If the the Rodenstock 90/4.5 is in good shape then it is a stellar lens. It is nice to have all later multi-coated lenses if you can afford them.

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    Re: dilemma on lenses

    My advice: Only add a new focal length lens to your optical armada if you find that you have a genuine need for it. Unless you're a collector.
    Regarding the 90mm, you may want a faster lens(Grandagon), or a lighter wieght/smaller lens(SA) all else being equal (but maybe not, I don't know what the imge circle is on these lenses)
    "I would feel more optimistic about a bright future for man if he spent less time proving that he can outwit Nature and more time tasting her sweetness and respecting her seniority"---EB White

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    Re: dilemma on lenses

    Considering what you have (nice selection, by the way) I'd shoot some film. If you feel trapped with the 360 and 135 -- one too long and the other too short -- consider a 210mm.

    Personally, I like a 300... but never had a 360 so I wouldn't know if I might like that better.

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