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    Re: sharpest lense ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Fromm View Post
    The better is the enemy of the good. E., I see that your French is going too. Yes, Voltaire.
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    Re: sharpest lense ever

    Given the fact that almost no one owns a filmholder which actually holds the film truly flat,
    and that people rarely use the optimum f-stop with a view lens, but stop down per plane
    of focus considerations, this is a pretty nonsensical discussion. Sharp where - closeup?
    Infinity? True apo per color work? What is the subjective definition of subjective??? But
    given the lenses I personlly use (Fuji A's, C's, G-Clarons, Nikkor M's, etc), I doubt I'll discover anything "sharper" for field use.

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    Re: sharpest lense ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Wiley View Post
    Given the fact that almost no one owns a filmholder which actually holds the film truly flat,
    and that people rarely use the optimum f-stop with a view lens, but stop down per plane
    of focus considerations, this is a pretty nonsensical discussion.
    For all we know the OP maybe using a digital sensor. And I love the irony of talking about film flatness as the more "real" concern. Film flatness is as much an issue as field curvature is. Sure... if there's a lot if it, it's bad but most of the time it doesn't make a difference. And even if you solve the film flatness issue, you can't solve the field curvature issues entirely... does that mean one has to give up photography? Can't we shoot anything other than an in-focus wall?


    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Wiley View Post
    Sharp where - closeup?
    Infinity? True apo per color work? What is the subjective definition of subjective???
    Perhaps these are points that you should use to enlighten the OP with instead using them to shoot him down. OP's specifically asking for subjective opinions... you are basically saying he can't ask such questions. Don't you think you're doing the wrong thing here by not informing the moderators then?

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    Re: sharpest lense ever

    The best lens is the one you've tried and know produces the best images for the type of photography you do, with the film (or sensor) you use, and under the conditions you use it.

    Cheers, Steve
    Last edited by Steve Hamley; 20-Jul-2012 at 08:22. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Hamley View Post
    The best lens is the one you've tried and know produces the best images for the type of photography you do, with the film (or sensor) you use, and under the conditions you use it.

    Cheers, Steve
    Precisely.
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    Re: sharpest lense ever

    Quote Originally Posted by E. von Hoegh View Post
    Precisely.
    ... and accurately.

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    And so we are doubly blessed and this thread can be closed without the mention of Hitler. (Grinning smiley)

    Ooops! Oh, crap!
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    Re: sharpest lense ever

    Is sharp good? Is sharp eminently important? Do it in Photoshop and you can sharpen it until it's unrecognizable!!!

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    Re: sharpest lense ever

    Quote Originally Posted by Noah A View Post
    I also compared 210mm lenses and found that there was basically no difference between my 210 Apo-Sironar-S and 210 Apo-Symmar (non-L). They were both really tack sharp, I couldn't imagine needing more sharpness.
    I sweated over which of these to get back when doing my first shopping. I could barely tell the MTF curves of the two lenses apart, so it makes sense that the real world differences would be unimportant. I'd like to get some of that sweat back. Maybe it could be applied to more important things ...

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    Re: sharpest lense ever

    Quote Originally Posted by evan clarke View Post
    Is sharp good? Is sharp eminently important? Do it in Photoshop and you can sharpen it until it's unrecognizable!!!
    Depends on the work you're doing, how you want it to look. For different projects of mine, sharp has been very important, not very important, or somewhere in between.

    Sharpening after the fact is helpful but has limits (I'd call unrecognizeability a serious limit ...)

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