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    Suggestions for 100% cotton rag paper for alternative processes (Van Dyke, etc.)

    I've been searching/Googling but I can't seam to find some simple suggestions for paper to use making some Van Dykes. Paper is a common word so I'm just not getting specific enough results.

    I'm looking for a smooth paper, not textured, in sizes for 8x10 and 11x14 prints (or just sheets that I can cut). I don't need anything ultra-fancy right now so some budget but good paper suggestions are appreciated.

    This is unknown territory for me so excuse the elementary question.
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    Re: Suggestions for 100% cotton rag paper for alternative processes (Van Dyke, etc.)

    Stonehenge.

    Such as from Bostick & Sullivan.

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    Cranes cover from the Formulary and Lanaquarelle both have smooth surfaces and should work for you. Stonehenge as already mentioned is fairly inexpensive as well as Rives BFK. Platine is nice but not exactly cheap. If you can deal with a little texture, you open yourself up to a wide range of choices. Visit any art supply store and look at the variety.
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    Re: Suggestions for 100% cotton rag paper for alternative processes (Van Dyke, etc.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Larsen View Post
    Cranes cover from the Formulary and Lanaquarelle both have smooth surfaces and should work for you. Stonehenge as already mentioned is fairly inexpensive as well as Rives BFK. Platine is nice but not exactly cheap. If you can deal with a little texture, you open yourself up to a wide range of choices. Visit any art supply store and look at the variety.
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    Be careful of the information you get at an art store. I have found very few in the past several years who know anything about their paper. Most papers today are buffered and you don't want to use those. Read the label on the original package carefully before you buy anything. Until you gain more knowledge, you should order from reliable dealers who know the papers will work, like Bostick & Sullivan.

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    Re: Suggestions for 100% cotton rag paper for alternative processes (Van Dyke, etc.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Noel View Post
    Be careful of the information you get at an art store. I have found very few in the past several years who know anything about their paper. Most papers today are buffered and you don't want to use those. Read the label on the original package carefully before you buy anything. Until you gain more knowledge, you should order from reliable dealers who know the papers will work, like Bostick & Sullivan.
    Will the packaging specifically say buffered or unbuffered? We have a supply store here (Jerry's Artarama) that has a very nice selection of papers. I've picked up some of these for drawing and painting, but if they can be used with alternative printing processes, that's quite a bonus.

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    Re: Suggestions for 100% cotton rag paper for alternative processes (Van Dyke, etc.)

    I have bought good papers from Jerry's in the past. The label usually indicates buffering. Jerry's web site lists the papers and information about them very accurately. You might try looking there before going to the store.

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    Re: Suggestions for 100% cotton rag paper for alternative processes (Van Dyke, etc.)

    To clarify, the problem with buffered papers when used with the iron processes is that maximum reflective Dmax is usually very low. For example, when I use Lanaquarelle out of the box with no acid pre-treatment the maximum Dmax is around 1.35 with gold toned vandyke. When pre-soaked with oxalic acid 1.5% for a couple of minutes the maximum Dmax jumps to 1.55 or more. Another problem with buffered papers is that the iron stain may not clear. It is important to use a paper that clears well as any residual iron left in the paper may cause the image to fade in the long term.

    Some papers require a stronger oxalic acid pre-soak, and/or longer soak time. It depends on the weight of the paper, and the thickness and type of the existing sizing. It is important to test new stock as new batches of paper may not perform like older batches.

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    An ox acid bath will allow the use of many buffered papers, no need to limit yourself IMO.
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    Re: Suggestions for 100% cotton rag paper for alternative processes (Van Dyke, etc.)

    Check these papers as they are all designed for hand coating. I am new to the Van Dyke process myself and just ordered somr arches platine. It has a very smooth texture designed for Pt/Pd and is supposed to work equally well with Van Dyke Brown and Kallitype as well. I don't know if it is 100% cotton rag but it seemed like the best choice for a quality print. A bit on the expensive side but paper choice plays a pretty important role in the finished product right?

    http://www.bostick-sullivan.com/cart/home.php?cat=18

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