Good point Luc, I didn't think about cross-currency payments. Duly noted.
But Frank was saying the buyer, upon selecting "gift," would be charged an extra 3%, which would be a fee added (not taken away). In your example you are talking about a seller, not a buyer. I'm just legitimately curious if/how they are doing that.
We are getting way off topic here... but PayPal runs an enormously complex financial system that a lot of people (as evidenced in another thread about PayPal) here simply don't appreciate. Just like with stealing music on the Internet, some people think it is OK to not pay for something that is the life blood of those who produce the service/product just because it is easy. It is wrong, and I won't do business with people who are unethical. If you are buying something from someone, it is not a gift. If they give it to you, it is a gift. If you don't want to pay the PayPal fees, then don't use PayPal! Simple, AND ethical.
That is what has happened to me Corran. I think PayPal can tell (sometimes) when you're paying for something as opposed to just giving people money. It also distinguishes and charges whether it is checked as a gift or a payment owed.
I know this is critically important to you so let me check top be sure. I just gifted you $1000. Let me know if it comes through or if they take a cut. I paid in Rubles from my friend Vladimir Putin's account.
In any event, if we've been paying for purchases using the Gift option, we are breaking their rules. Not that I care that much, but I'll own up to it.
Why not block any comments on the sale threads?
Only the seller can give additional information, pictures, price release etc.
Limited bumps, maybe in the first week every day and then once weekly.
After the sale is completed the buyer should have access to give a feedback,
if the buyer wants to be private he can give feedback to moderator or other known and respected person, the moderator or person remarks eg. : "buyer gives positive feedback, quality of item is OK, fast shipping".
When problems occur the buyer and seller should try to settle this with themselves without public comments.
They should try to be friendly and fair and objective,
when someone said rude words there's ALWAYS the possibility
to make an excuse and keep on and sort it out.
If that doesn't work there should be a kind of ombudsman who cam mediate.
But only when the buyer and seller have made really enough efforts themselves.
Not run to the ombudsman after the first email whining: "this crook called me a dumb".
This is not a kindergarten
i think there should be some way of letting people know if a seller is a fraud, or lacks integrity, if people on this forum have been burnt, then as a group, the tribal logic is to stick together.
i am however not interested in psyco-dramas caused by misunderstandings that cause people to yell at one another.
i am interested in avoiding problems.
maybe the moderators can come up with a solution where by a seller can simply be barred from selling, if he is deemed a scoundrel.
i mean they ban people for talking in the wrong way
my two cents plus paypal fees.
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