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    Re: arca swiss z1 with 8x10 - how is it in reality!

    These're very useful advices and comments. I would try again with pan tilt head. May be gitzo g1570, how do you think about this gitzo?
    Or could you recommend me what kind of pan tilt is suitable for 8x10?

    One of think in head that I like is quick release plate.

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    Re: arca swiss z1 with 8x10 - how is it in reality!

    I have a Gitzo 1370 which I find works just fine- the 1570 being a bit bigger ought to suffice as well

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    Re: arca swiss z1 with 8x10 - how is it in reality!

    Have you seen the Arca-Swiss D4 or the Arca-Swiss Cube C1?
    Either will handle the 8x10 with geared movements. Also the manual D4M will work as well. Any of these are compact and lighter than what you are looking at.
    Information on rodklukas.com.

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    Re: arca swiss z1 with 8x10 - how is it in reality!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Klukas View Post
    Have you seen the Arca-Swiss D4 or the Arca-Swiss Cube C1?
    Either will handle the 8x10 with geared movements. Also the manual D4M will work as well. Any of these are compact and lighter than what you are looking at.
    Information on rodklukas.com.

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    Re: arca swiss z1 with 8x10 - how is it in reality!

    Quote Originally Posted by vinny View Post
    I bought Noah's z1 and I don't have any problems using it with my 8x10. I have bubble levels installed on my cameras so I level it to that and I'm done, no crooked horizons or buildings. That said, ballheads arent' ideal for fine adjustments as noah said. As soon as you pan left or right, re-leveling is often required. An ideal head would be a manfrotto 410/3275 that wasn't a piece of garbage (mine didn't last).
    Piece of garbage? Maybe you got a bad example but I've had mine for about 12 years. While it hasn't been used much in the last couple years, for the first 10 or so it went everywhere my 4x5 cameras went including some fairly rugged terrain. It doesn't look real pretty, having been dropped, bumped, and dragged all over the place on a wide variety of rocks and other hard objects but it's still perfectly functional. I didn't use it with my 8x10 cameras, only 4x5 and my DSLRs.
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    Re: arca swiss z1 with 8x10 - how is it in reality!

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Ellis View Post
    Piece of garbage? Maybe you got a bad example but I've had mine for about 12 years. While it hasn't been used much in the last couple years, for the first 10 or so it went everywhere my camera went including some fairly rugged terrain. It doesn't look real pretty, having been dropped, bumped, and dragged all over the place on a wide variety of rocks and other hard objects but it's still perfectly functional.
    Yes. Lot's of play in the movements after two years of light use. I sent it in for repair, came back the same. Great idea but shouldn't use cast metal parts. If i only shot 4x5 (not a pentax 67, and 8x10) i'd probably buy another one.

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    Re: arca swiss z1 with 8x10 - how is it in reality!

    No experience with the ball head, but I use the AS cube a lot for MFD. LF is another issue. OK with an 8x10 Kodak 2D and a compact lens. However, support is marginal with something like an Apo Sironar 300 on a light field camera. Useless with a studio camera. As things mass up, Sinar and Foba pan tilts do a much better job than any geared head I have tried.

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    Re: arca swiss z1 with 8x10 - how is it in reality!

    It's not the weight rating that counts as much as the balance, support, leverage... the large platform of the Gitzo 1570M head works well with flatbed cameras and the long handles give you leverage and control. Although it is awkward to transport -- try removing the entire column or packing the head separately from the tripod.

    Even better are the single axis tilt-only heads (or sometimes with panning) like the Ries, which are often associated with classic wooden cameras anyway. Granted that you may have to adjust tripod legs to get exact positioning, but these heads are very light, compact, simple, and most of all, strong!

    I'd love something like the geared Arca-Swiss Cube for my other cameras but I think an 8x10 would out-leverage it.

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    Re: arca swiss z1 with 8x10 - how is it in reality!

    z1 ballhead weight rating is more than sufficient, however the problem of ballhead in general is that axis movements are difficult to control. i am looking at d4/d4m but can't find it anywhere in stock.

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    Re: arca swiss z1 with 8x10 - how is it in reality!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Klukas View Post
    Have you seen the Arca-Swiss D4 or the Arca-Swiss Cube C1?
    Either will handle the 8x10 with geared movements. Also the manual D4M will work as well. Any of these are compact and lighter than what you are looking at.
    Information on rodklukas.com.

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