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    Re: Lens recommendation for 4X5

    What do you like on smaller formats? You won't suddenly start liking any equivalent focal length as your only lens if you don't already. Your kit is totally a personal choice. I like 28mm equivalent focal length for landscapes, 50mm efl for general use, and a 100mm efl for portraits. In 4x5, that's 90, 150, 210/240 (more like ~75mm efl).

    All modern lens designs are good, figure out the length you want, how much coverage you'll need for the movements you'll use, and buy something. Multicoating is nice, but don't break the bank, the first coating is the most important. Don't discount older lenses, but don't pay a mint for something exotic either. A Kodak Anastigmat or Ektar 203mm f/7.7 is a great choice for a portrait-ish length. If you're going to go nuts on movements, get a plasmat (something like a Symmar).

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    Re: Lens recommendation for 4X5

    Quote Originally Posted by paulMD View Post
    What do you like on smaller formats? You won't suddenly start liking any equivalent focal length as your only lens if you don't already. Your kit is totally a personal choice. I like 28mm equivalent focal length for landscapes, 50mm efl for general use, and a 100mm efl for portraits. In 4x5, that's 90, 150, 210/240 (more like ~75mm efl).

    All modern lens designs are good, figure out the length you want, how much coverage you'll need for the movements you'll use, and buy something. Multicoating is nice, but don't break the bank, the first coating is the most important. Don't discount older lenses, but don't pay a mint for something exotic either. A Kodak Anastigmat or Ektar 203mm f/7.7 is a great choice for a portrait-ish length. If you're going to go nuts on movements, get a plasmat (something like a Symmar).
    Thanks Paul, I mainly used 50mm lens for street photography with 35mm film format. I know 150mm would be the equivalent in LF but I need to do an assignment on portraits first and then later I can get other lenses. Now between 210 and 240 Is hould just go with 210 right? I am also looking at NIKKOR 210 F5.6 (42 Mount lense).



    Thanks for the advice
    Girish

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    Re: Lens recommendation for 4X5

    Quote Originally Posted by crowgraphy View Post
    Great info John and thanks!
    this option looks more interesting to me
    90 and 150 and 210 ... The classic kit I guess I can use 150 for landscape also?


    Thanks again
    Girish Sharma
    You can use anything you want for landscape. Whatever angle of view suits your vision of the scene is the correct lens.
    One man's Mede is another man's Persian.

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    Re: Lens recommendation for 4X5

    Quote Originally Posted by crowgraphy View Post
    Thanks Paul, I mainly used 50mm lens for street photography with 35mm film format. I know 150mm would be the equivalent in LF but I need to do an assignment on portraits first and then later I can get other lenses. Now between 210 and 240 Is hould just go with 210 right? I am also looking at NIKKOR 210 F5.6 (42 Mount lense).



    Thanks for the advice
    Girish
    Actually, the formats don't compare exactly since they have different ratios of the sides. That said, a 50mm on 35mm format is actually closer to 180mm on 4x5.

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    Re: Lens recommendation for 4X5

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianShaw View Post
    What John said.

    I use a 150 and 135 nearly interchangably. The 300 is really good for head-and-shoulders.
    I agree that normally a 300mm is great for head and shoulder shots. Unfortunately, a Tachihara has only 12 1/2" of bellows draw so to be about 5-6 feet away you don't have enough bellows to focus a 300mm that close. A 300mm does make a great landscape lens on a Tachihara. I own a Nikkor 300mm f/9 M and I highly recommend it. Very lightweight and sharp as a tack. Unfortunately, it's a bit expensive.

    If you really want to do portraits then I suggest buying a cheap monorail to compliment your nice Tachihara field camera.

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    Re: Lens recommendation for 4X5

    I have used a Caltar IIN 150mm F:5.6 on my Crown Graphic and Wisner Traditional for about 20 years. It is made by Rodenstock and is much cheaper on the used market. This lens gives about 215mm of coverage, which is plenty for the intended purpose. I doubt that a Tachi will handle a 300mm, although I am sure that the Wisner handles my 273mm Artar comfortably.

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    Re: Lens recommendation for 4X5

    Quote Originally Posted by jwanerman View Post
    I have used a Caltar IIN 150mm F:5.6 on my Crown Graphic and Wisner Traditional for about 20 years. It is made by Rodenstock and is much cheaper on the used market. This lens gives about 215mm of coverage, which is plenty for the intended purpose. I doubt that a Tachi will handle a 300mm, although I am sure that the Wisner handles my 273mm Artar comfortably.
    I own a Tachihara and a 300mm lens. I read somewhere that you could focus a 300mm down to something like 16'. I never measured it myself. I always focus mine on something a lot further away. So the answer is yes you can use a 300mm on a Tachihara but with the above limitation.

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    Re: Lens recommendation for 4X5

    Tachihara was my first (and so far only camera). I was starting in a very similar fashion like you are starting today, so let me share some experience.

    My first lens was Rodenstock Geronar E 210/6.3. it is a tessar design what limits the coverage a bit (still plenty for most 4x5 work). Advantage is it is smaller and lighter and cheaper than 210/5.6 plasmats. It performs very well too. I do not have the lens anymore (I went with 75, 125, 240, 400/tele setup in the course of the years), but would not hesitate to use it.

    Somebody above mention to start with 210 lens. A good idea to my opinion. It is a bit longer than "normal" (which would be around 150 - 180) and that makes composition easier than with wider lenses (simply eliminates more from the scene). But surely 150 lens would be as good to start with. Should your taste later develop in a different way you will have no problem to sell the lens for about the same as you paid for it. But it is a good idea to use just one lens for some time - there are many things to learn and you rather invest the money to film. You will be surprised how much you will spend on little things - I know I was.

    Now a few general comments for Tachihara. It is a nice camera, lightweight, but has of course its limitations. It does not really enjoy long and heavy lenses like 240/5.6 or heavier. Small compact lenses are not a problem of course (Nikkor M 300/9 or Fujinon C 300/8.5 or such). I do use the Osaka 400/8 which is a tele/design (requires only 260mm bellows draw), but wuth the weight of 500g it is on the edge. The 240 I use is Fujinon A 240/9 (small and great lens) is no problem at all.

    Also Tachihara is not the best choice for lenses wider than 90. It can be done (I do use 75, but on a recessed lens board a bit of PITA), but the compressed bellows limit the movements more than pleasant. In fact I keep telling myself to sell tha Tachi and get some compact monorail, but somehow do not find the time to do that

    I hope you will enjoy the Tachi post some results once you get there.
    Matus

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    Re: Lens recommendation for 4X5

    Start with a single lens of "normal" focal length -- 150mm for 4x5. Then see if you need something else (wide or longer) before spending a lot of moola on other people's recommendations, most of which are BS.
    Wilhelm (Sarasota)

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