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    Re: Reciprocity Timer 1.0

    OH, PS I'll use those times I guess and then report back...

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    Re: Reciprocity Timer 1.0

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    Also found this...

    "Efke IR 820 film shows significant reciprocity failure but the following corrections worked well:

    1 second metered, give1.5 seconds
    2 seconds metered, give 3.5 seconds
    4 seconds metered, give 8 seconds
    8 seconds metered, give 24 seconds
    15 seconds metered, give 1 minute
    30 seconds metered, give 3 minutes
    more then 30 secs, give up."
    Tc = Tm * log(Tm) / log(2) ; where Tm is the time indicated by your meter reading and Tc is the Time corrected for reciprocity failure.

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    Re: Reciprocity Timer 1.0

    Thanks Brad.
    That equation is a pretty common one and certainly approximates the times Stone lists well - under 4 seconds.
    If we can confirm the 1.5 and 3.5 second exposure times I can work it in.

    1 0
    2 2
    4 8
    8 24
    15 59
    30 148
    60 355

    Quote Originally Posted by BradS View Post
    Tc = Tm * log(Tm) / log(2) ; where Tm is the time indicated by your meter reading and Tc is the Time corrected for reciprocity failure.

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    Re: Reciprocity Timer 1.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Boinzo View Post
    Thanks Brad.
    That equation is a pretty common one and certainly approximates the times Stone lists well - under 4 seconds.
    If we can confirm the 1.5 and 3.5 second exposure times I can work it in.

    10
    22
    48
    824
    1559
    30148
    60355
    It will be some time before I can test, the film is coming from another country.

    There IS a test roll coming to me, but not sure I have enough frames to cover my own testing as well as this, will definitely use 2 sheets for this if it's just the 1.5 and 3.5.

    I'll add details when I have them.

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    Re: Reciprocity Timer 1.0

    Is the IR film in date? If not, given IR film's propensity to lose sensitivity/speed, these times will be rendered moot by degrees, depending on how old the film is.
    Lachlan.

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    Re: Reciprocity Timer 1.0

    Hmmm. Very good point Lachlan...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachlan 717 View Post
    Is the IR film in date? If not, given IR film's propensity to lose sensitivity/speed, these times will be rendered moot by degrees, depending on how old the film is.

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    Re: Reciprocity Timer 1.0

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    [...] And reciprocity of such a film that is mostly IR is hard to meter in the first place since not many own an IR spectrum metering device.
    Many years ago someone wrote a good article on how to convert a Weston light meter to read into the IR and UV. I think it was Ed Scott who prepared this chart. Certainly there aren't many functioning Westons left, but surfing our the source might be useful since the Weston is inexpensive.

    I don't understand why they didn't include a reciprocity chart...
    Perhaps because they don't want to be responsible for the metering/estimation errors of their customers.
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    Re: Reciprocity Timer 1.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachlan 717 View Post
    Is the IR film in date? If not, given IR film's propensity to lose sensitivity/speed, these times will be rendered moot by degrees, depending on how old the film is.
    No, none of it is in date... For anyone... Neither is Technical Pan, but it's listed in the app

    I'll let you guys know, it will be a month before I have results though

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    Re: Reciprocity Timer 1.0

    I don't now about IR but if the Tech Pan is frozen it will act the same today or 10 years from now exactly how it did when new.
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    Re: Reciprocity Timer 1.0

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Gittings View Post
    I don't now about IR but if the Tech Pan is frozen it will act the same today or 10 years from now exactly how it did when new.
    IR is purported to have really bad keeping qualities but from what I've seen those are exaggerated.

    I agree, it will surely be worse than Tech Pan in keeping long term, but it's dated I think 2013 or 2012 expiry so I'm not THAT worried.

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