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    Enlarge, contact print? Or both?

    OK I'm way too old to to indulge in the luxury of another bout of format confusion, but here's what happened. That amazing human being Bob Carnie made me a beautiful 16x21 print of one of my WP negs from my trip out West last month and damn if it didn't stir a response from me that I thought I rationalized away a few years ago when I made the decision to only contact print! That atavistic response has caused me to re-examine my commitment to only contact print. It seems that sometimes bigger CAN be better in the sense of conveying the scope and grandeur of the scene and drawing one into it even at the trade-off of reduced resolution and smoothness of tone. My Pt contact prints by comparison are small jewels of ultimate sharpness and tonal gradation but they do lack the on the wall impact and drawing in of the enlarged print.

    So, I wonder, how many of you do both? How do you triage your subject matter and adjust your approach for each process? Do you do this pre or post exposure? Is it better to just decide on one process? Thanks for your thoughts!!
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    Re: Enlarge, contact print? Or both?

    As a general rule, I enlarge my roll film negatives and contact print my sheet film negatives. There are some choices to be made at the boundary - I have sheet film negatives as small as 2.25x3.25", and my enlarger handles up to 4x5" - but recently I've been contact printing even the smallest sheet film negatives. No deep theoretical or ideological reason, though - I could wake up tomorrow and decide that I want to try something different.

    If you find the prospect of making some enlargements for a change especially appealing and you have the time/energy/money, why not go for it? Particularly if you're working for your own pleasure, why not be guided by what moves you rather than feeling you have to stick to some arbitrary idea of coherence or consistency?

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    Re: Enlarge, contact print? Or both?

    Excellent answer Oren, thanks. I guess though that my question pertains to a given format, i.e. would one enlarge and also contact print say 8x10? As of this moment (6:58 Eastern time), I'm inclined to do both in the sense that I would like to make big prints of a few and most suitable subjects but go on contact printing in Pt/Pd for the most part.
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    Re: Enlarge, contact print? Or both?

    Dare one suggest a digital approach at least for proofing to a larger size?
    For example a EPSON 700/750 scanner and 3880 printer would let you print to the size you mentioned. This would let you evaluate the results of image resizing and if you have issues with the look of digital output you can have Bob do you a final version.
    For me this is one of the strengths of a hybrid approach.
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    Re: Enlarge, contact print? Or both?

    I don't contact at all. I projection print from reductions to 1:1 to enlargements.

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    Re: Enlarge, contact print? Or both?

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard K. View Post
    I guess though that my question pertains to a given format, i.e. would one enlarge and also contact print say 8x10?
    Some pictures might work better one way or the other, while others might work well, but differently, either way. Again assuming you're not working to someone else's requirements, why not just do whatever you think works best for each picture, whether the negative is 8x10 or whatever? And if you have pictures that work well with both approaches, then print 'em both ways and enjoy the different flavors!

    The only real constraint is that for negatives beyond a certain size, gaining access to a suitable enlarger either for yourself or through a commercial lab can be difficult and/or expensive. But as Jim mentions, scanning can also be a good option if you like the look of digital output.

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    Re: Enlarge, contact print? Or both?

    Some negatives are best enlarged, others are best contact printed.
    I'll go out on a limb here: negs with a great deal of tiny information usually are better enlarged while some negatives just seem talk louder when in a more intimate format. 8x10 and certainly 11x14a re large enough where enlarging becomes less neccesary but for example 8x10 aerial negatives just need to be enlarged IMHO.
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    Re: Enlarge, contact print? Or both?

    Oren makes some good points. If you're making prints for your own pleasure, indulge yourself, whatever that means. I've never made many large prints, because what the hell would I do with them? I'd say 80+% of all of my prints from any format negative are 8x10. 8x10 is easy to process, display and archive, even for one on a meager budget. And, portraits seem to live more happily at small print sizes than some other genres do.

    All the above being said, I am planning to make some big prints for exhibition, which will be a first for me, and I hope my prints find good homes, because I definitely don't have room for them at mine.

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    Re: Enlarge, contact print? Or both?

    When I shoot 5x7 or 8x10, I generally make two negatives of the scene--this is a precaution against making a mistake in processing or a flaw in the negative. I generally process the first negative for my chosen process--platinum or silver enlargement. If it looks good, I will process the second sheet for the other process. I use the same EI for both processes, even though my testing shows I should use a higher EI for the platinum work. This translates into longer exposure times under the UV lights for a platinum print, but as long as I don't make an error in metering, the times are still manageable--generally 8 to 12 minutes under the lights.

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    Re: Enlarge, contact print? Or both?

    follow your heart Richard...

    -give this a month's thought

    -consider ALL the options(buying an enlarger if you don't already have an 8x10-capable one already I'd say is the "biggie" that I can think of)

    If I had the space to house a horizontal enlarger for my 8x10 negatives, sure, I have a number that I'd like to enlarge. But frankly, who I am right now doesn't call for large prints, and my photographs are perfectly fine being contact printed. If I want a 16x20 enlargement, I just shoot 4x5 and print it at the local photo center. IQ-wise, the 16x20's I've done from 4x5 negatives look perfectly fine to me. The photo center still maintains a somewhat-suitable b/w and color darkroom. But if space is a concern by ANY means, then I think that contact printing is the way to go in the end.

    but just my $.02

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