ok, I need help. Can someone explain to me the difference in large format lenses??? How many kinds are there? The mounting-how is it done???? Are the shutters alw ays seperate? How does one set the exposure speed? Also, I keep seeing pictures of 4x5 backs that seem to have another frame over the groundglass, this thing h as two tabs on the left side. What is this for??? Mine doesnt have one. Is it just another variation of a back??? thanks a million in advance
P. O'B.
"Can someone explain to me the difference in large format lenses???
Yes.
" How many kinds are there?"
twelve.
"The mounting-how is it done????"
Have you ever read The Joy of Sex?
" Are the shutters always seperate?"
Only since the divorce.
" How does one set the exposure speed?"
Swiftly.
If I can quit laughing over Ellis' answer long enough I will try to help. In all sincerety, you need to spend some time in a well equipped library. There are numerous formulas for LF lenses, the current favorite by manufacturers being the plasmat formula. There are many, many lenses based on the Tessar formula, which are four element lenses. If you go back to the turn of the century, you will discover a large array of lenses and formulas. Most modern lenses are mounted in shutters, but that was not always the case. Many were sold as barrel mounts to be used with the Packard and other behind the lens shutters. There were even 4x5 focal plane shutters. The lenses have to be mounted on a lens board, which then fits onto the camera. The exposure is set through the shutter and the aperature, just like 35mm. I hope this was a serious question you posted. If not, I'll feel like a fool.
Regards,
Padraig. You obviously need a very gentle introduction to large format photography. It's going to be far too much to take in at one go.I suggest you take yourself down to the nearest hardware store and buy yourself a file. Take the file and open up the little hole in the back of your 35mm camera where the film goes, just a little bit at first, maybe half a millimetre all round.Take some pictures with your new larger format camera, and see how you get on. When you feel comfortable with it, open up the gate (that's the technical name for the film hole) a bit more.Keep doing this until your pictures have funny oval holes all along the edges of them, then throw your camera away.Move on to something a bit bigger, like a Hasselblad with a 645 back, and then do the same thing with that. Eventually, you'll be experienced enough to handle a 'real' large format camera.That's the way we all did it (honest).
When I first contemplated buying a large format camera my only information came from Shutterbug and I lived in a rural area in Idaho with no access to LF information. The matter of lenses was very confusing.
Generally speaking, any LF lens will fit any LF camera as long as the lens board is big enough and you have enough bellows draw. Most lensboards are simple affairs, a board with a hole in it basically and a rim to help make it light tight. You attach the lens to the board in one or two obvious manners. The speed and aperture are set on the lens shutter, usually.
Lenses in barrel have no shutter.
So all you need to know is if your shutter is small enough to fit in your camera. If you have a 4x5 or smaller camera be careful of old large shutters that say "#5". Everything else will probably work.
Measure your bellows draw, subtract half an inch for safety, and that is likely to be your maximum lens focal length.
That's all there is to it. One thing about LF is you have a dizzying availability of lenses.
Padraig, If your serious about LF work then get yourself just two books, 1) The Camera by Ansel Adams, 2) Using The View Camera by Steve Simmons. Also treat you rself to the occassional copy of View Camera mag.
I learned just about everything I know about LF from reading Adam's "The Camera." This is a great book, and you won't go wrong with it. Buy the rest of the books in the series, too: "The Negative" (it's about exposure and processing) and "The Print".
What camera do you have? It sounds like you have just aquired a camera with no lens.
The lenses are set like any other -- shutter speed and apeture. Only antique lenses will come without a shutter.
One thing you can do is drop by a camera store specializing in used cameras, and look over their inventory and ask for help. They'll be happy help you and sell you what you'll need.
"It's the way to educate your eyes. Stare. Pry, listen, eavesdrop. Die knowing something. You are not here long." - Walker Evans
thanks for the tips on the books.
I just bought the rudiments of a sinar f; rail, front and back F standards, glass, bellows, Lensboard (copal 1), no lens. 400 bucks. One more stupid question; the pictures I have seen of sinar f backs seem to have another piece over them that has two levers on one side , and one above and one below. (see: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=469663515 ) Mine doesn't have this on the back, am I missing a piece?
Those 2 levers are used to aid in the insertion of the film holder. Some backs have them, some do not. They are not essential.
ok, thanks for that. should the film holder be inserted on the side of the gg holder with the hinge? I know the gg holder can be rotated. The hinge is on top now. that would seem to be the most logical place to insert the film holder, not from the bottom, even though it looks like it might go in that way. turning it once to the left would allow me to slide it in from the right side, but then the shutter cable hookup would be on the right side, not the left??????
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