Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Hydrocat??

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Nov 1999
    Posts
    763

    Hydrocat??

    Has anyone tried Hydroquinone instead of Pyrocat in the Pyrocat HD [the normal version]. I read at one stage that they could be substituted 1 for 1 as they are from a similar chemical family. I think it was Pat Gainer [APUG] who was suggesting that could be done. I wonder if it would be a similar developer, or if anyone has tried it? I can get the Hydroquinone but not the Catchetol [?]

    Steve

  2. #2
    IanG's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Aegean (Turkey & UK)
    Posts
    4,122

    Re: Hydrocat??

    Hydroquinone doesn't act in the same way as Pyrocatechin, it only has very mild tanning /staining properties.

    Pyrocatechin on it's own works as a surface developer as in the Windisch compensating formula, because it tans and hardens film proportionally to the amount of exposure & development.

    Yes you could substitute Hydroquinone for the Pyrocatechin but you'd get a developer that had very few or little of the beneficial attributes that make Pyrocat such a good developer.

    A better substitution would be Pyrogallol but it has a tendency to oxidise faster.

    Try looking for Pyrocatechin by it's different names, Pyrocatechol, Catechol, 1,2-dihydroxybenzene it's used outside Photography so should be available from a good chemical suppliers.

    Ian

  3. #3

    Join Date
    Nov 1999
    Posts
    763

    Re: Hydrocat??

    You are always a great source of knowledge, thanks as always Ian

  4. #4
    Octogenarian
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Frisco, Texas
    Posts
    3,532

    Re: Hydrocat??

    Steve,

    Ilford DDX developer contains Hydroquinone and Phenidone as the reducing agents.

    I used DDX for many years and had difficulty controlling development of the highlights.

    Switching to Pyrocat-HD solved the problem.

    Perhaps the Photographer's Formulary can ship Pyrocat-HD (in Glycol) to Australia.

    www.photoformulary.com

  5. #5

    Re: Hydrocat??

    Steve
    I have tried to replace Catechol with Hydroquinone. With very little sulfite or ascorbic acid produces an intense yellow mask. The problem could not solve was that hydroquinone is a strong developing agent at a pH of more than 10 or 11. Long time to start developing and then makes a breakthrough infection to achieve maximum density of the negative. Produces a large edge effect (high apparent sharpness), but it was uncontrollable for me.
    Claudio Sz

  6. #6

    Join Date
    Nov 1999
    Posts
    763

    Re: Hydrocat??

    I tested the "formula" that I had substituted but like Gem and Claudio the highlights were very difficult to control. The rain has stopped so I will return to something that is working correctly.

  7. #7
    Old School Wayne
    Join Date
    Dec 1999
    Posts
    1,255

    Re: Hydrocat??

    Has anyone tried Hydroquinone instead of Pyrocat in the Pyrocat HD [the normal version].
    At least one person seems to do it successfully http://www.apug.org/forums/viewpost.php?p=146256

    I've just mixed some up to try with x-ray film but I have no experience with staining developers to compare it to.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •