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    Arca-Swiss back orientation change?

    Hi all,

    From Stroebel's View Camera Technique and what I've found online, Arca-Swiss cameras apparently don't have rotating backs. However, I've seen photos that suggest the back orientation can be switched. It looks like there are simple spring clips for the entire back panel assembly that would allow choice of landscape vs. portrait orientation.

    Can any Arca users chime in to confirm this? FWIW, I'm specifically interested in the Discovery on this point, but I gather that its standards are essentially identical to the other 4x5 Arca cameras.

    Thanks,
    John

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    Re: Arca-Swiss back orientation change?

    yes! unclip the back and remove it, rotate it, clip it back on. same is true for almost all folding cameras like the deardorf, wisner, tachihara, etc. Rotating backs add weight and not much value

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    Re: Arca-Swiss back orientation change?

    Thanks for the info, William. I suppose it shows that the cameras I have experience with either have rotating backs or use some other scheme (e.g. Toho's rotate everything approach).

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    Re: Arca-Swiss back orientation change?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Whitley View Post
    Hi all,

    From Stroebel's View Camera Technique and what I've found online, Arca-Swiss cameras apparently don't have rotating backs. However, I've seen photos that suggest the back orientation can be switched. It looks like there are simple spring clips for the entire back panel assembly that would allow choice of landscape vs. portrait orientation.

    Can any Arca users chime in to confirm this? FWIW, I'm specifically interested in the Discovery on this point, but I gather that its standards are essentially identical to the other 4x5 Arca cameras.

    Thanks,
    John
    I have 5 Arcas and the two newest have a single cammed button which releases the back, I'm including a poor digital picture..Evan Clarke

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    Re: Arca-Swiss back orientation change?

    .. and do not make the same mistake as me with my A/S 4x5" "field"

    - framed vertical
    - inserted the film holder horizontal
    - removed the dark slide, ready to shoot
    - at the last minute, discovered that it should be vertical, not horizontal
    - switched the back to vertical....
    ...............

    oops ! the dark slide !

    There is the advantage of a rotating back

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    Re: Arca-Swiss back orientation change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emmanuel BIGLER View Post
    .. and do not make the same mistake as me with my A/S 4x5" "field"

    - framed vertical
    - inserted the film holder horizontal
    - removed the dark slide, ready to shoot
    - at the last minute, discovered that it should be vertical, not horizontal
    - switched the back to vertical....
    ...............

    oops ! the dark slide !

    There is the advantage of a rotating back
    I have a nice Wista RF with a rotating back and some Ebonies and others, but no camera beats my 141 Fmetric orbix for my uses..Love it!!!...EC

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    Re: Arca-Swiss back orientation change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emmanuel BIGLER View Post
    oops ! the dark slide !

    There is the advantage of a rotating back
    Hi Emmanuel -- thanks for the hard-earned advice, and a few laughs this morning! ;-)

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    Re: Arca-Swiss back orientation change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emmanuel BIGLER View Post
    .. and do not make the same mistake as me with my A/S 4x5" "field"

    - framed vertical
    - inserted the film holder horizontal
    - removed the dark slide, ready to shoot
    - at the last minute, discovered that it should be vertical, not horizontal
    - switched the back to vertical....
    ...............

    oops ! the dark slide !

    There is the advantage of a rotating back
    Never had that problem with either my A/S or Plaubel 8x10 in the field. When I frame and focus it's always in the position that I want the image (horiz/vert).

    Interesting…
    Are we truly creative, or simply too lethargic to become pedestrian?

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    Re: Arca-Swiss back orientation change?

    Emmanuel could it be you had to much good french wine in your blood at that time?

    Cheers Armin

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    Re: Arca-Swiss back orientation change?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emmanuel BIGLER View Post
    .. and do not make the same mistake as me with my A/S 4x5" "field"

    - framed vertical
    - inserted the film holder horizontal
    - removed the dark slide, ready to shoot
    - at the last minute, discovered that it should be vertical, not horizontal
    - switched the back to vertical....
    ...............

    oops ! the dark slide !

    There is the advantage of a rotating back
    I don't get it. How do you frame vertical without the back being in the vertical position? In which case it's impossible to insert the film horizontally. You must have removed the back after framing and focusing, and then put the back in the wrong position?

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