Received my 8x20 (Thank you Neal Folberg) safely from Jerusalem. Replaced the GG. Reassembled the Dallmeyer 3 which covers nicely. Mounted my APO Boyer Saphir 600, OMG... Mounting the matching 360, don't expect it to cover. Looking for a G Claron 355 I know is outstanding, and more affordable than Dagors.( No, I'm not adverse to a nice Dagor) The question is what else would be interesting to use in the same style? (The Boyers are hellier design.) What wides are you ULF guys using? Open to the unusual image maker.... but not excited by the Petzval revival, for me, like 'em and the work I see from you folks, just doesn't seem to be "me"..... Not in a rush and being flat broke is a temporary condition. Shooting some paper with Eddie this week, to test the holders and get the juices flowing.