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    Re: post alternative techniques

    Some Platinum work to get ready for the next show.





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    Beautiful, Tri. Straight Pt or Pt/Pd? - I'm keen to try Pt myself.

    Barry.

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    Thanks Barry. Straight Pt won't give you the warm tone, my ratio Pd/Pt is usually between 70/30 or 80/20 depending the density of the neg. I'm ratio method guy and develop with Potassium Oxalate.

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    Beautiful work, Tri! But I always wonder why it's called "platinum print" when platinum itself is just a small percentage… Wouldn't it rather be "palladium print"?

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    Tri, I have seen pure Pd prints and they are usually too warm for my taste. These are beautiful in every respect, including color. I keep coming back to both of these, particularly the second one. May I ask, what paper do you use, and why pot. oxalate rather than ferric oxalate?

    Many thanks, Barry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csant View Post
    Beautiful work, Tri! But I always wonder why it's called "platinum print" when platinum itself is just a small percentage… Wouldn't it rather be "palladium print"?
    Everyone knows what platinum is -- few know about the metal palladium...platinum is much more expensive sounding too!

    I use about the same mix as Tri, and the same developer. I use mine warm -- somewhere around 100F.

    I will not swear that the print is very close to this color

    Wawona Tunnel
    Yosemite National Park
    8x10 Pt/pd print

    Taken between mid-night and 2pm to avoid traffic -- I had to move the camera a few times when a car would show up. One could hear them coming from quite a ways, so I did not worry too much about getting hit from behind while under the darkcloth.
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    Potassium Oxalate is the developer that Tri is using, he is still using ferric oxalate in his sensitizer ratios. Photographers have several options when it comes to developers for their platinum and palladium prints, the most common of which are ammonium citrate and potassium oxalate, and each developer yields a tonal range with different characteristics. These prints sing, nice work.

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    Ahh... thanks, Dave. I need to do more reading before I get into this. Yes, these prints really do sing.

    Barry

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    Looks more like silver prints to me on...Ilford?

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    Quote Originally Posted by csant View Post
    Beautiful work, Tri! But I always wonder why it's called "platinum print" when platinum itself is just a small percentage… Wouldn't it rather be "palladium print"?
    Platinum is considered is the precious metal as known by the trade so I guess people call it platinum print even though there is only a small percentage used.
    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Kirsten View Post
    Tri, I have seen pure Pd prints and they are usually too warm for my taste. These are beautiful in every respect, including color. I keep coming back to both of these, particularly the second one. May I ask, what paper do you use, and why pot. oxalate rather than ferric oxalate?

    Many thanks, Barry.
    I mostly use Weston Paper . It has the warm tone, naturally and it absorbs the chemical well. Great Dmax though. My favorite papers are Weston and Crane Natural.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaughn View Post
    Everyone knows what platinum is -- few know about the metal palladium...platinum is much more expensive sounding too!

    I use about the same mix as Tri, and the same developer. I use mine warm -- somewhere around 100F.

    I will not swear that the print is very close to this color

    Wawona Tunnel
    Yosemite National Park
    8x10 Pt/pd print

    Taken between mid-night and 2pm to avoid traffic -- I had to move the camera a few times when a car would show up. One could hear them coming from quite a ways, so I did not worry too much about getting hit from behind while under the darkcloth.
    Don't be surprise if your print and mine are not the same tone. I did the same thing with Patrick Alt years ago as we compared prints. They never look the same although we all use the same chemical distributor, same method and same mix . It's another virgin territory

    Quote Originally Posted by davehyams View Post
    Potassium Oxalate is the developer that Tri is using, he is still using ferric oxalate in his sensitizer ratios. Photographers have several options when it comes to developers for their platinum and palladium prints, the most common of which are ammonium citrate and potassium oxalate, and each developer yields a tonal range with different characteristics. These prints sing, nice work.
    Thanks Dave for the clarification. Glad to see you here on the forum. For those of you who don't know, Dave Hyams is former employee for Bostick and Sullivan . I have known and been working with Dave for many years . Very knowledgeable about the alternative process , the chemical and formula . Another great platinum specialist.

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