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    Re: Use of X-ray film: technical discussion with example images

    Well, I pulled a sheet from the middle and the back of the pack and I cannot see this defect.

    I did, however, discover that the small, red AC safelights sold on Ebay are NOT safe with Fuji HR-U Xray film. I did a 1 through 10 minute wedge with the film on my enlarger baseboard, about 5 feet away with the light reflected. There is practically no difference between the steps, but the ruler I laid over one edge was perfectly clear.

    I am not saying these don't work for other applications, but be aware of my experience if you are thinking of using them for X-ray film.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/235241444895
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    Re: Use of X-ray film: technical discussion with example images

    Quote Originally Posted by Eugen Mezei View Post
    Can it be pressure?
    I am beginning to suspect my film holders. Will be testing those.

    That's the problem trying to resurect a 100+ year old camera; everything is suspect...
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    Re: Use of X-ray film: technical discussion with example images

    Quote Originally Posted by Kino View Post
    Well, I pulled a sheet from the middle and the back of the pack and I cannot see this defect.

    I did, however, discover that the small, red AC safelights sold on Ebay are NOT safe with Fuji HR-U Xray film. I did a 1 through 10 minute wedge with the film on my enlarger baseboard, about 5 feet away with the light reflected. There is practically no difference between the steps, but the ruler I laid over one edge was perfectly clear.

    I am not saying these don't work for other applications, but be aware of my experience if you are thinking of using them for X-ray film.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/235241444895
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    I have great success with what is called a LED "Neon Rope strip".
    I left a sheet of paper out for 30 minutes = Then developed it. It came out WHITE. I did the same with Fuji HR-U. It was the came = Nothing.
    I have been using this safe lighting system for three years now.
    Here is the Amazon link for what I use. (I do not know about the other LED lights = I Know this works.:

    https://www.amazon.com/Maxlaxer-Wate...1zcF9tdGY&th=1Click image for larger version. 

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    Re: Use of X-ray film: technical discussion with example images

    Here is what I am using for the development of X-ray (Fuji HR-U) film.
    It is my reformula of Ansco-30 = For TANK DEVELOPMENT.

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    Here is the Ansco-30-JK reformulated “Tank Developer Solution”.

    Water - at 120 Degrees F. -------------------750ml.
    Metol --------------------------------------------------------- 3.0 Grams. (Reduced)
    Sodium Sulfite ----------------------------------------- 70.0 G. (Increased)
    Hydroquinone ------------------------------------------- 4.0 G. (Reduced)
    Sodium Carbonate ------------------------------------ 20.0 G. (Reduced)
    Potassium Bromide ------------------------------------- 5.5 G. (Increased)
    Cold water to make a Full 1 liter of Solution. (STOCK solution.)

    For a working solution --
    Take One Part of this Stock to 24 Parts of Water. That is a 1:25 Ratio. (i.e.= 1 Oz. stock to 24 Oz. Water)
    The times will vary with the temperature of the working solution, anywhere from four to seven minutes.
    (20 Degrees C. = 6 minutes)
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    Re: Use of X-ray film: technical discussion with example images

    Regarding pressure, how you store your film? On the boxes is imprinted, that no pressure should be applied to them. Now guess why I suspect your problem could be pressure: My mother always places things in the fridge onto my boxes of film, although I told her thousands of times not to.

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    Re: Use of X-ray film: technical discussion with example images

    Quote Originally Posted by James R. Kyle View Post
    Here is what I am using for the development of X-ray (Fuji HR-U) film.

    Here is the Ansco-30-JK reformulated “Tank Developer Solution”.

    Take One Part of this Stock to 24 Parts of Water. That is a 1:25 Ratio. (i.e.= 1 Oz. stock to 24 Oz. Water)
    What is meant by tank? Tanks for roll films or dip and dunk tanks?

    Is that not rather a 1+24 ratio?

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    Re: Use of X-ray film: technical discussion with example images

    Thanks James for the neon rope link; that looks ideal.

    A bit scattered at the moment, but will pull it together soon.

    Too many irons in the fire at the moment...
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    Re: Use of X-ray film: technical discussion with example images

    Quote Originally Posted by Eugen Mezei View Post
    Regarding pressure, how you store your film? On the boxes is imprinted, that no pressure should be applied to them. Now guess why I suspect your problem could be pressure: My mother always places things in the fridge onto my boxes of film, although I told her thousands of times not to.
    Upright on a shelf in the darkroom; not refrigerated yet. Just got the film last week and don't want to refrigerate the box I am working with at the moment. The other is most certainly not stacked under anything in the fridge.

    Like I said before, I am under the growing conviction it is my ancient film holders leaking light.

    These things take time to sort out, but thanks for the ongoing input.
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    Re: Use of X-ray film: technical discussion with example images

    Quote Originally Posted by Eugen Mezei View Post
    What is meant by tank? Tanks for roll films or dip and dunk tanks?

    Is that not rather a 1+24 ratio?
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    Ok... Whatever.

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    Re: Use of X-ray film: technical discussion with example images

    Has anyone determined around how long Fuji super hr-u lasts on average after expiration? Trying to determine if I should cut this film to size and put it in the fridge or just keep it out in my ~70-80F darkroom.

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