Which camera for a 4x5 landscape photographer?

[David Willis]

I got into LF by taking a class. I knew the teacher and liked him and his teaching style. I've been bitten by the bug and am finally getting everything together for my camera.

I went with Shen Hao because I was able to get a co-worker to bring one back from Shanghai. A great deal at $550, and for me price is critical. I showed it to my friend who teaches LF (and other classes) and he thought it would be a good deal at $1000 (the import price). FWIW he currently uses a Horseman, but has experience with several LF cameras including Tachihara and Zone VI.

I have no idea how much experience you have in LF, but you may want to take a class if one is available. That might give you an idea of what you would like in a camera.

Dave

[paul owen]

Tim, the Ebony 45SW.

[Chad Jarvis]

A better question is "which lens?" I know of no one who can examine a large format photograph and determine which camera was used to take it. Adams once said, and I paraphrase, that a camera is no more than a place to hold a lens and a sheet of film. While a little extreme, he is correct. Get the camera you're comfortable with, both economically and practically, then concentrate on what really matters: your lens selection.

[Scott Walton]

Chad, I couln't have put it better myself!!! My Tech III works great for what I do and have never been at a loss with it. You can find them for $800+-

[Doug Paramore]

Tim: As you can see, there is no one "best" 4x5 for field use. Each of us has one or more favorites. One of my favorites for years has been the MPP, which was a British knock-off of the Linhoff III. My latest favorite is the Tachihara, which I bought this summer and is the first new LF I have bought in many years. I like both, along with my old Graphic View II. Some cameras just feel right and others don't. As much as I like the MPP, I once loaned it to a friend to use while his camera was in the shop. He absolutely hated it. It just didn't feel right to him. The point to all this rambling is that you need to heed the advice of others and try out several LF cameras. That may not be easy unless you live in a large city, although I would check with the local college photography department and any camera clubs to see if the members might have LF cameras you can handle.

Regards,

[Bob Salomon]

If you need brochures on either Linhof or Wista we can mail them to anyone in the US.

If you have questions you can call either Dan Grey or me at 800 735 4373.

Dan is Product Manager for Wista and I am for Linhof.

[Ellis Vener]

if you are serious about wanting to do macro work with a 4x5 field camera you definitely want to consider the Canham DLC has it has 550mm of extention and bellows built in and that eliminates needing expensive extention beds or rails or extra long bellows. As an earlier poster mentioned it will also handle short lens as well -- down to 58mm-- without needing the wide angle (AKA: "bag") bellows accesorry. it is also a very stable camera with a very bright and contrasty groundglass / fresnel combination. All of these built in features, as well as the 4.7lb weight and extensive shift, rise/fall and tilt movements make the camera a bargain. From my testing & research the only other camera in it's class are the Linhof Technika and the Ebony.

[paul owen]

Tim, If you really need to go close as well as general landscape then any of the Ebony SV range is worth a look

[Kerry L. Thalmann]

Tim,

As Doug, and others have noted, there is no ideal camera for all users and all uses. So, I'll toss in my two cents and confuse matters even further.

You say you want a lightweight camera for landscape use. What you don't say is how light do you consider "lightweight". Compared to a Linhof Technikardan TK45S, a Canham DLC is lightweight. However, the Toho FC-45X I use for backpacking is over two pounds lighter than my Canham (that I recently sold). If you're looking for something for backpacking, the Toho IMHO can't be beat. It's the lightest 4x5 camera currently made. After minor modifications, mine weighs 2 lb. 12? oz. It has a longer bellows extension than the wooden Wistas you mention, is lighter and has full movements on the front and rear. I have yet to find a camera better suited to backpacking or longer dayhikes.

That said, it's not the perfect camera for all situations. If by landscape photography, you mean "road kills" and short dayhikes, something a bit heavier, but more versatile, like the Canham DLC or the Phillips (or most of the other cameras mentioned here and many more not mentioned) would do the job.

I have a complete review of the Toho online at:

http://www.thalmann.com/largeformat/toho.htm

If you want "ultralight", yet very capable, look at the Toho. If you just want reasonably light and full featured, look at the Canham DLC, the Phillips and the others mentioned hear.

Whatever you get, the important thing is to get some decent lenses and get out and do some shooting. You won't REALLY know if a camera suits your needs until you've used it for a while in the field - especially since this is your first LF camera. Don't worry too much about it. In LF, the camera is often the least important decision (since it is easier to switch brands than the smaller formats with dedicated lens mounts). After you've had a chance to use the camera for a while, you'll have a much better idea what you like about it and what you wish was different. You might get lucky and be perfectly happy with your initial purchase. If not, no big deal. Put it up on eBay and buy something else, that based on YOUR experience will be a better match for YOUR needs. You can keep your same lenses, meter, tripod, darkcloth, holders, etc. Worst case, you may have to buy some new lens boards (or a lens board adapter).

There are a LOT of different 4x5 field cameras on the market these days. They all have their good and bad points. What some may consider a useful feature, others may consider a fatal design flaw. Truth is, they are all compromises. The key is finding the best combination of compromises and design trade-offs to match YOUR needs. So, study the reviews, read the opionions (with a grain of salt - mine included - make that mine especially) fondle the cameras in a shop if you can, rent something, borrow something, buy something, but most of all get out and do some shooting to find out which features YOU need and don't need. I've been at this a while, and I have switched cameras several times. Now that I've finally given up on finding the "perfect camera" (see: Grail, Holy), I'm much more content (still, I do pour over the specs of every new model that hits the market just to see if it might be incrementally better FOR MY NEEDS than what I'm currently using - old habits die hard).

Kerry

[Dave_958]

In selecting a camera you may want to consider how readily you can get help from the camera manufacturer or distributor. Some contribute to this forum; others never make any contributio