Mark, have you read anywhere that I promote cursing?
If it's the cursing that you don't want act surgically and get rid of the elements who curse.
If you use an axe instead of a chisel, in the words of our new (meaning the USA) leader, it will be a coarse and unsophisticated remedy that will show its inherent flaws as our moderator's decision is doing now.
Dear Domenico,
I see you did your lessons in rhetorics well, and you are highly involved in philosophy.
I bet you understood well, what Mark wanted to say with the example of cursing. But as you couldn't argue against the whole - that in the house of somebody else, you have to show respect to the owner - you take it out of the context to attack it. Nice rhetorics, no argument. You still have to behave as a guest.
Same with the ideal of freedom: if you can't beat them at defined arguments, go to a common place nobody can deny, and argue back. Nice rethorics again, but that's it. You don't have to defend anybodies freedom here - It's a forum on LF, not human rights.
If you had the same respect for the people who do this forum, like you claim it for your own opinions, you would accept their decision and discuss political matters elsewhere. And you would stop whining about it.
As you seem to be intelligent and educated, and you still harp on about this, I can't deny I get the impression you only want to enforce your point.
If you talk about respect, but you don't take "no" for an answer, you have way to go.
Regards
First, thank you for the "Dear Domenico", but if you do not mean it spare it.
Your post exudes abundant sarcasm, a defect of character that I abhor in people and even more the venomous feel I get from it.
I would have ended this post at this stage, but for the sake of trying to explain further my position, here you go.
There is something very important that marks the difference between a house or household and this site.
What constitutes the very fabric of this forum is not only the html and on and so forth but more importantly its members.
Without its members this site would be an empty shell and that's why I think it is important to have respect for them.
This might not be a democracy but since, again, it is constituted by its members, it should be very close in being so.
And yes, I will take "no" for an answer but first I feel entitled to a fight.
did they outlaw porn to?
We could talk about that
Any one up for stroking that sinar shaft of Frank's.....
:-)
lighten up people....
I belong and have previously belonged to many lists, mostly 'moderated'... some are great resources (like here) and others are communities AND great resources. From time to time things get out of hand... (a byproduct of faceless communication) and arguments spill over into the whole forum/list. After a short while, if the problem persists, a moderator will contact the offending parties (guess how I know that... ), and warned. If the problem persists, the naughty folks get a variety of banishments, a few weeks, months, or permanent (the death penalty) depending on the severity of the infraction.
That system seems to work fine, there have been no rips in the fabric of time/space and we are still talking about the same topics as before. I think the decision to ban ALL politics and religion was an easy way out of moderating the wild-n-wooly Lounge in this incredible election cycle.
It's certainly put a cloud on the forum for me personally, and I almost never came into the lounge until the political season began because I didn't have a big interest to hang out ... but I got hooked. It's cruel world. I can't help but feel the forum is worse for the loss... I try to commit to the other forums, but I have less heart for it. And like Domenico, I just don't like places that deny speech on any principle. It certainly doesn't feel like any home I want to live in for very long.
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