Originally Posted by
Don Hutton
The term banquet camera refers to format type - panoramic and usually specifically 8x20 or 12x20, although others fall into that definition too.
Incorrect. A Banquet Camera "is" referred to a type of camera, not "format type". The name stems from this "type of camera's" (not format) used in the past at banquets/weddings/events/etc.
They were used for taking "banquet portraits" which typically required a panoramic style negative which was then contact printed. Almost none of Dick Phillips' cameras fit the definition of "banquet camera" - very little of his production was ULF and while Dick did made a couple of 12x20s and a few 8x16s - those haven't been produced for many years.
So what is it then, a camera or a format?
By far the greatest number of his production has been 4x5 and 8x10 - and these even under the broadest possible definition, are definitely not banquet cameras. If you want one of his 4x5s, give him a call and I'm sure he'll have one for you or you can get onto the list for the next run.
I never said his cameras are banquet based cameras. I said the going rate today for one of his cameras on Fleabay is what these old Banquet cameras go for. I should have been clearer by defining the point that one rarely sees a Phillips 8X10, but when one shows up on Ebay, people go nuts over it like they do when a nice Banquet camera comes on auction. I was comparing the rarity of the Phillips with the rarity of a nice Banquet camera since both are "niche" products in the world of Ebay where billions of items are auctioned in a matter of days?
You need to be careful about posting incorrect information on this forum - most folks do searches here when they want information and bad information and inaccuracy simply cause this amazing resource to decline in usefulness.
Ted is correct that I was not informed about Phillips still making cameras. I assumed from the information gathered that he had taken a break and was not making cameras at this time, hence posted a bit too errant a response relative to Dick's present and future propositions in the LF world.
I also did not know about any other camera types that he made (ones you mentioned), though it isn't relevant to this or any thread since those cameras are in the past and we aren't talking about Dick and making ULF cameras.
You need to be careful about posting incorrect information and if you want to scrutinize any post I make, why don't you use your "usefullness" by going through every single post on this forum where you can "easily" scrutinize, correct, and make certain every member on this board has posted "accurate" information, with accordance to master Zenhutton's perfect knowledge database.
I have read a ton of posters, from moderators to people with only a few posts and I can easily take their words and flip them any which way I want and call them inaccurate. By all means, go through Ted or any Mod's posts and tell them to be careful about posting incorrect information...
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