Whole Plate Wide Angle Lens Of Choice in the Schneider XL Lineup

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I have a 165 Super Angulon for sale.

It has a 395mm IC.

I had the Schneider 360mm F6.8...it's a delicious piece of artillery to look at, but I don't think it belongs on "any" camera I would ever use

I'm going to guess that a 165mm lens with this kind of IC must be, well, pretty much similar to the 360 w/exception of the glass being obviously rounder in circumference...in other words...ONE HUGE BIG HONKIN' LENS!!!

"BUT"....a wonderful one for an 8X10/11X14/etc. landscape shooter that doesn't mind having a team to help him/her carry around massive lenses.

[Sal Santamaura]

Here is the information on Ebony's Website:


FORMAT 6 1/2 x 8 1/2 inch ("Wholeplate")
WOOD Honduran mahogany
METAL Titanium
FOCUSING Triple-draw rack & pinion (front and back focusing)
LENSBOARD Sinar-type (Linhof adapter board included)
CAMERA BACK Interchangeable vertical/horizontal International Standard
FOCUSING SCREEN Ground glass with 10mm grid
MOVEMENTS
(levers lock swings and shifts, knobs lock all other movements)
FRONT Rise 75mm, Fall 35mm, Shift 50mm+50mm, Swing 20°+20°, Base tilt front 30°, Back 90°, Center tilt 30°+30°
BACK Rise 80mm, Swing 20°+20°, Base tilt front 90°, Back 30°, Center tilt 20°+20°
BED Drop-bed 30°
ZERO ("NULL") POSITION RESET Front swings, front/back center tilts: zero detents
Back rise: lowest position
Front rise/fall: zero position alignment points
Shifts: zero position on scale
Base tilts: zero position notches

MIN/MAX BELLOWS EXTENSION 120mm (30mm with tilts and rise) - 730mm (830mm with tilts and rise)
USABLE LENSES 72XL (flat board) - 1200mm (telephoto)
With 4x5 reducing back: 58XL and 65mm with flat board,
47XL with recessed board
SPIRIT LEVEL FRONT One-way
BACK Two-way with mirror
TRIPOD SOCKETS Two, each 3/8" with one 1/4" reducing bush
WEIGHT 4.0kg
DIMENSIONS 27.0 (h) x 30.0* (w) x 11.0 (l) cm *including knobs


Here is a photo on 4X10 sheet film:

http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=004LOl

Scroll down and check this shot out.

I guess that Ebony specification is related to minimum bellows extension using some tilt and rise. It's rather misleading since the other Ebony link I posted above indicates a 72XL's image circle is only large enough for 5x7.

The 4x10 section of an 8x10 that you linked to seems to confirm that a 72XL will illuminate pretty far into the corners of 6 1/2 x 8 1/2 but, if you're thinking of enlarging, I'm willing to bet resolution that far out will not be good enough.

[Nick_3536]

All they mean is you can focus a 72mm lens. What you stick behind it. Reducing back , roll film holder or even a full sheet of film is up to you.

It's no different then Shen mentioning the 8x10 can focus a 90mm with the normal bellows. Doesn't mean you can cover the full format.

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All they mean is you can focus a 72mm lens. What you stick behind it. Reducing back , roll film holder or even a full sheet of film is up to you.

It's no different then Shen mentioning the 8x10 can focus a 90mm with the normal bellows. Doesn't mean you can cover the full format.

SW810U Specs:

MIN/MAX BELLOWS EXTENSION 105-380mm
USABLE LENSES 90-360mm
SPIRIT LEVEL FRONT One-way
BACK Two-way with mirror
TRIPOD SOCKETS Two, each 3/8" with one 1/4" reducing bush
WEIGHT 4.0kg (SW810U) or 5.2kg (SW810UE)
DIMENSIONS 37.0 (h) x 35.0 (w)* x 16.0(l) cm *including knobs


Why do they say Usable lenses=90mm??? Why do they even mention a 90mm lens for an 8X10 camera when there is no 90mm lens that covers the format?

I think you are right about them mentioning the 72XL as a lens that can be mounted on the camera and used with the camera (though why even say anything about the 72XL when they know it does not cover???)...By saying the 72mm XL is a USEABLE lens on the camera, what happens when a person calls them up and says they purchased the 72mm XL to use on the WP camera, but it doesn't cover:

They respond and say that it is only stated because it is the smallest focal length that can be mounted onto the camera. You respond and say, thanks, I just wanted to be sure my favorite lens could be mounted on the camera and displayed in my camera museum...

[Nick_3536]

Which format? It's up to the photographer to decide what they want. Wouldn't be the first person here to ask about circular images or be happy with fuzzy corners. Or maybe want a reducing back for the camera.

It also tells you that a longer lens that will cover 8x10 shouldn't have any problems with movements.