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Thread: Sinar F1 shift/swing

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    Sinar F1 shift/swing

    Hi everyone, I'm yet another beginner trying out LF photograpy. I just picked up a used F1 yesterday and was able to figure out how to focus, tilt, rise/fall, and the levers for removing lens boards and backs.

    However, I could not figure out how to swing or horizontally shift the standards. The little information I could find on the web mentioned a lever that locks down both swing and tilt on the F1 standards. I assume this is the lever in front of the horizontal semi-circular dial. I tried pushing it side to side but it wasn't moving. Rather than risk breaking my new-to-me camera, I thought someone here may know if I'm looking at the correct part and which way to move it. I'd hate to break it on the first day .

    Since this is my first post here, I should give a quick intro. I've been reading this site for a few years, I've wanted to try LF photography for awhile. I just recently found a local deal on an F1 and an Omega D6 enlarger, so I jumped at the chance. I'm in Ottawa and will probably be found puttering around the more scenic architecture in the near future.

    Now to get a tripod and head...

    Jason Rosinski

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    Re: Sinar F1 shift/swing

    Jason,
    this is the knob. Also in my F2 it is sometimes hard to move.
    Jan

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    Post Re: Sinar F1 shift/swing

    Jason,

    You have the right lever. I don't have the camera in front of me, but my muscle memory tells me that for the back, you would push the lever all the way to the right. For the front (facing the camera) you would push it all the way to the left.

    The previous user may have really tightend the levers down. They should be tight, but not so tight that they will not move.

    I assume your camera was correctly identified as an f1. The f2 has a separate lock for the shift - a lever that protrudes from the front or back near the tilt lock. The swing is locked by the lever you described.

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    Re: Sinar F1 shift/swing

    Great, thanks to both of you. I'll take another look at it tonight, and try pushing the one on the back to the right to see if it loosens. I'm pretty sure it's an F1, the front standard doesn't have fine focussing.

    There was another thing I couldn't identify, but I hadn't looked closely at it yet. There is some sort of arm sticking out from the lower left of the back, it seems to be some sort of screw arm. It turned anyways, but I didn't unscrew it completely. Maybe 2-3 inches long. Any idea what that is?

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    Re: Sinar F1 shift/swing

    I got my F1 this week (first large format!) and was just going to ask the same question about those screw arms! On mine the left/right shift is just really tight, but it loosens up once you get it going.

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    Re: Sinar F1 shift/swing

    The arm you refer to is the socket into which you would screw a cable for for the Auto Aperture shutter. With the cable istalled, the shutter automatically closes when you insert a film holder. (If you look in the corner of the format frame in front of the groundglass, you will see a little post sticking up that gets pushed into the corner by the film holder thereby activating the cable.)

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    Re: Sinar F1 shift/swing

    Thanks Jerry. So if I'm not using an auto aperature shutter, then whatever is screwed into there is either non-functional or not needed? Maybe it's there for light tightness though, I'll have to take a closer look at it. But at least I now know what it's for.

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    Re: Sinar F1 shift/swing

    DBeeson, after taking another look I think it's for sticking in a hex rod and clamping it in. I think it's for accessories.

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    Re: Sinar F1 shift/swing

    After taking a look at my F2, the lever under the center is pulled to the right if you're behind the camera. (That goes for both the front and the back, i.e. they are pulled to the right if you are behind the camera.) On the F and the F1, that lever locks both the shift and the swing. The (base) tilt is controlled by the lever on the right bottom side.
    Jason is also correct about the hex rod attachment. That is for fitting shades, filters etc.
    I don't know if you have yet noticed the two scales on either side of the base block. The scales are rather loose and can be zeroed in. The one on the right is for choosing the correct aperture. (First focus on farthest object you want in focus, zero the scale and then focus on the nearest object. Read the scale and set the aperture on the lens(e.g. f/22 1/3). Then turn the scale halfway back, which is exactly 2 f/stops. i.e. in this example f/11 1/3. You have set the focus plane exactly where it should be for an optimum Depth of Field.)
    There is also a turning wheel on the left side of the block which helps you to set the tilt/swing. That is also simple to use, but is also something which I've already written an article about some years ago. It's on http://binoni.nu/SinarF/TiltnSwingSinarF.htm. For now please disregard the last 3-4 paragraphs of that article, which you can digest later on.
    Last, congratulations on your purchase. The Sinars are very easy to work with, and these scales etc. makes it simple to get repeatable results.

    //Björn
    Last edited by Bjorn Nilsson; 22-Sep-2007 at 05:28. Reason: grammar...

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    Re: Sinar F1 shift/swing

    Thanks Bjorn. I found out that on my standards the lever for shift and swing actually loosens to the left. I just wanted to make a note of that here in case someone else is looking for this in the future.

    If I may ask, what is the most common solution for B&W filters for LF? Do most people use screw-in's, or are square filters in front of the lens more common? I've been thinking about it and I'm leaning towards the square filters.

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