Does Toyo 45CF offer rear tilt and swing?

[Rider]

I'm asking this question because I've seen conflicting information on this.

Does anyone know for sure whether the Toyo 45CF field camera offers rear tilt and swing?

[Ken C]

No, it does not.

[Joseph Dickerson]

It does not. I believe you could use the drop bed to achieve rearward tilt but it would be awkward.

The 45CF has generous movements in the front but none on the rear. Check out the Toyo (USA) web site for a comparison I did of the 45CF and the Shen Hao.

Joe D.

[Joseph Dickerson]

Looks like Ken C. and I were typing at the same time.

Joe D.

[Jeffrey Sipress]

Why don't you simply go to their website??

[Rider]

To answer Jeffrey's question and to expand on my original question, Toyo's website has this info for the 45CF, which just confuses me:

Base Tilt front & rear: 90°+15°

What is base tilt for the rear?

Are there field cameras out there with rear tilt? The only one I am aware of is the Canham, but it is way too expensive. How important is rear tilt in the field.

Joe D, where is Shen Hao comparison.

Thanks all!

[tim atherton]

Are there field cameras out there with rear tilt? The only one I am aware of is the Canham, but it is way too expensive. How important is rear tilt in the field.

!

Toyo 45A, AII, AX

(and yes, the Toyo USA website is confusingly innacurate - it's always been a fairly useless source of Toyo info imo)

[Rider]

I just found Joseph Dickerson's Shutterbug comparison of the Toyo 45CF and the Shen Hao, very informative since I am also considering that one.

I still don't understand why Toyo advertises "rear base tilt" and what that does.

Tim, I had forgotten about the A series Toyos. Alas, they too are pricey, even used.

[Eric Brody]

Rider-The lack of rear movements on the CF has been a source of frustration to those contemplating what is otherwise a reasonably useful camera. As others have said the "A" cameras, 45A, AII, AX, all offer all the movements, front and rear, that most nature and landscape photographers need. I shall send you a PM about the 45A I am selling if you are interested in such a camera.

Eric

[Geert]

I would not want a field camera without rear (base) tilt. It's the movement that I use the most.
Just think about Schleimpflug.

Rear base tilt means that the center of rotation for that movement, is located at the bottom of the rear box.

At least base tilt is a must have, center tilt should even be more interesting but I never worked with a camera that had it. (my Toyo C is still unused...)

G