starting out...

[jnantz]

Not always cheaper in the long run... its one thing to spend more now, but its completely different to spend more money now on a camera with a lens that is DOA..

the price of a lens you purchase is never the actual price of the lens. you always have to figure in the price of a CLA.

[DannL-USA]

As stated on p. 5 of the linked manual, the 985 accepts both 6x7 and 6x9 cm roll holders. Same is true for all of the cameras you mention.

I stand corrected. I personally don't use roll film, as I develop each sheet individually . . . and I'm cheap. ;-)

[John Kasaian]

B-b-but all the cool kids shoot Speeders and wear fedoras

[DannL-USA]

As stated on p. 5 of the linked manual, the 985 accepts both 6x7 and 6x9 cm rollholders. Same is true for all of the cameras you mention.

Sure enough, I dug the Horseman roll film holder from the old trunk. It's a 6x9. I would not have known that if we didn't have this discussion.

An interesting piece of hardware . . .

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16656393382...mis&media=COPY
Missing the eyecup. :-)

^^^ Well that sold fast!

[BrianShaw]

B-b-but all the cool kids shoot Speeders and wear fedoras

Yes we do... and we use flashbulbs too!

[John Kasaian]

The OP might consider rooting about for a Graflarger, or is it Graphlarger? However you spell it, an accessory that can convert a Crown to an enlarger.
It's a pretty slick deal!

[monochromeFan]

I really wanted a nice nifty easy to handhold camera... finding one that worked for me was pretty damn near impossible. A few "really nice ones" in my budget turned out to be nothing more then shells. hence in the end, an omega view 45d with a mint rotating back came to me.

[DannL-USA]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/134902686729

Have you ever looked at one of these? I have not.

[monochromeFan]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/134902686729

Have you ever looked at one of these? I have not.

Ironically i discovered those AFTER i purchased a mamiya 645.... they arent bad choices, but i would not know if it would be wide enough for me to use unless i had it in hand.

[Havoc]

Ironically i discovered those AFTER i purchased a mamiya 645.... they arent bad choices, but i would not know if it would be wide enough for me to use unless i had it in hand.

Wide enough? A 100mm on 6x9 is about the same as the 80mm on your 645 for a point of field of view. But you can have a 50mm for the Mamiya Press which would be about the same as the 35mm of the 645. But you don't have the possibilities of a view camera. It is all about compromises.