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    Seeking history of Nikkor LF lenses

    Yes, I know, such info does not matter in terms of picture-making, but I do like to know the design history of lenses I own.

    When it comes to Nikkor large format lenses as far as I have been able to deduce they were first released in 1977 (according to a Nikon dealer catalogue that announces their “new” appearance). These were the first variants with Nikon Integrated Coating (which looks purple-pink).

    Then another catalogue dated 2002 suggests the second variants with Nikon SUPER Integrated Coating appeared (which looks green). I’m guessing these were produced until circa 2012 based on when they seem to have dropped out of B&H catalogues).

    Can anyone shed any light (corrections) on this indicative timeline?


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    Re: Seeking history of Nikkor LF lenses

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    Re: Seeking history of Nikkor LF lenses

    Try to pin down the time of the switch from Nikkor Q single-coated tessars to the equivalent multi-coated M series. That was long before 2002. You could also try to research the history of Seiko shutters, and when those were still being used, since earlier Nikkor LF lenses came in them. Their LF lineage might go back quite a bit further than you think. Their manufacture of high-end process or graphics lenses goes quite a ways back; and it would have been a simple step plus a shutter from there to making LF camera lenses, or simply an end-user adaptation of those. Nikon industrial lenses seems to stem from 1946, aerial lenses back to 1933. By the 70's, Apo Nikkors were already the predominant lenses being used by the printing industry for high-end applications in this region; so their reputation and roots most go further back than that. And there might have been a distinct gap between the first Nikon LF lenses and their distribution and brochure here in the US, with an already large selection of LF lenses to choose from. By the mid 70's that whole selection was already in stock at a local store. But it's s hard topic to pin down, since Nikon places more emphasis on the history of their microscopes and survey optics than large format camera applications. It was a minor player.

    Of course, you haven't specified the actual Nikon lenses you own yet, so their own vintage can't be addressed.

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    Re: Seeking history of Nikkor LF lenses

    Speaking of view camera lenses more generally rather than strictly lenses for formats big enough to be considered large format by our criterion, the 105mm f/3.5 Nikkor-Q dates back at least to the time of the Marshal Press camera, for which it served as the normal lens. That was introduced in 1966. The successor 105/3.5 M is listed in the 1982 Nikon LF lens catalog that I have.

    EDIT: Marketing of Nikkor LF lenses was discontinued in 2005-6 - some in 2005, IIRC most in 2006. Production likely ended a while before that. Of course, there was NOS of some of the lenses in the retail pipeline for a while after that. Long-timers here may remember the fire sale on the 120mm AM:

    https://www.largeformatphotography.i...s-with-Copal-0

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    Re: Seeking history of Nikkor LF lenses

    More: this page attributes early-version Apo-Nikkors, with focal lengths marked in cm, to dates as far back as 1946.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikkor...r_/_Early_type
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    Re: Seeking history of Nikkor LF lenses

    This page in Japanese Wikipedia...

    https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83...B8%80%E8%A6%A7

    ...has the following product introduction dates:

    Nikkor W

    100/5.6 (12/1979)
    105/5.6S (8/1984)
    105/5.6 (no date)
    135/5.6S (3/1984)
    135/5.6 (4/1977, shutter changed in 9/1978)
    150/5.6S (3/1984)
    150/5.6 (3/1977, shutter changed in 9/1978)
    180/5.6 (4/1977, shutter changed in 9/1978)
    210/5.6S (9/1979(
    210/5.6 (3/1977, shutter changed in 9/1978)
    240/5.6 (7/1978)
    300/5.6 (9/1978)
    360/6.5 (12/1985)

    Nikkor SW

    65/4S (no date)
    65/4 (6/1978)
    75/4.5S (3/1984)
    75/4.5 (7/1978)
    90/4.5S (3/1984)
    90/4.5 (6/1978)
    90/8S (3/1984)
    90/8 (1/1981)
    120/8S (no date)
    120/8 (12/1979)
    150/8 (12/1981)

    Nikkor T

    270/6.3 (12/1981)
    360/8 (12/1981)
    500/11 (3/1983)
    600/9 (3/1983)
    720/16 (12/1985)
    800/12 (3/1983)
    1200/18 (12/1985)

    Nikkor M

    105/3.5 (12/1979)
    200/8S (10/1984)
    300/9 (12/1977)
    450/9 (12/1977)

    Nikkor AM

    120/5.6S (no date)
    120/5.6 (3/1983)
    210/5.6 (12/1985)

    "Nikkor" (series not specified)

    300/9 (11/1968)
    450/9 (11/1968)

    A couple of notes re shutters:

    * As we've discussed here...

    https://www.largeformatphotography.i...kor-(S)-lenses

    ...the "S" designation refers to Copal shutters with a 7-bladed iris rather than the 5-bladed iris used in earlier models.

    * I do not know what the "shutter change" was for several of the W series lenses in 9/1978.

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    Re: Seeking history of Nikkor LF lenses

    I have a superb multi-coated 105/3.5 M for sake of 6x9 roll film backs. It doesn't have sufficient coverage for 4X5 film. For that, I use 200 or 300 M's. All my own Apo Nikkor process lenses seem to be of early 70's vintage, and are exceptional optics, better corrected than any other lenses I have ever used, in any format. I use them mostly for enlarging, making precision dupes and internegs, masks, etc, though I also have Sinar lensboards fitted to them, if I want to shoot with them.

    Thanks for those links, Oren. The industrial heritage of Nikon lenses based on the Apo El lineage is still alive, but has evolved mostly along machine optics and laser applications of fixed focal lengths and apertures, and special glass types.

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    Re: Seeking history of Nikkor LF lenses

    My undocumented memory recalls a "View from Kramer" column in "Popular Photography" magazine, extolling the Nikkor LF lenses, in the late '70s.
    When I bought my first one, used, in NYC in about 1985, there was a selection of used Nikkors to be bought, along with all the other brands. Those were the days... IIRC I paid $400 for a Nikkor-W 180/5.6.
    It seems that Nikon did not make changes in their designs over time, unlike their competitors.

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    Re: Seeking history of Nikkor LF lenses

    I don't see the 610/9

    Which I really like, but no shutter fitted, process lens

    very lightweight
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