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    Re: Sinar models - what's the difference?

    to add: there is pretty much ZERO practical difference between the P2 and the X. The detents make zero difference if you have eyes and can use them to zero movements - and the format change capability is sort of moot too since A. most people are unlikely to use it in 99.9% of cases and B. you can change formats with the X anyway (via a little trick).

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    Re: Sinar models - what's the difference?

    No "0"detents on the X model.

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    Re: Sinar models - what's the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert H View Post
    No "0"detents on the X model.
    "0" detents are nothing but small metal balls. See P diagram below (P2 is about same). If you ever rebuilt P/P2 standards you probably
    lost one of two of them they tend to fall out when you do not expect.



    As far as understand Sinar marketing department decided not to put small metal balls in X.

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    Re: Sinar models - what's the difference?

    I have an F2, and done some research into the differences between the F1 and F2 in the series...... So I'll add to the thread.

    The F2 Graflok back has a lift lever to lift back the ground glass to insert your film holder. It also has a probe probe holder.

    The F1 does not.

    As well, the F2 has focus control on the front standard, whereas the F1 only allows for crude focus on the front via moving the rail itself.

    I understand that fine focus knob on the front standard was added to the F2 after a couple of years of production.

    According to this manual: http://di.hexagram.ca/files/manuals/...tionmanual.pdf

    On page 5, the F2 came with metering back with probe holder (462.16), and the F1 without probe holder or lift lever (461.36).

    The F2 was changed a bit when the locks for the swing and shifts were seperated. Earlier models shared a single lock.

    Looking at the Catalog 2000 brochure catalog ( http://www.sinar.ch/wp-content/uploa...logue-2000.pdf ), it does say that it comes with 461.36, however, the photograph shows that it has the lift lever. And they go on to say that it does not have a meter probe holder. So it would seem that somewhere along the way the the lift lever was added to the 461.36, and it replaced the 462.16.

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