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    Waterfalls in Oregon Or How Many Holder to Take On a Day Hike

    Going to be heading up to Oregon and was going to go through one of their state parks that has a number of waterfalls accessible on a fairly short hike. The problem is I don't quite know what to expect in terms of shots (of course I can see what folks have already taken, but lighting, year, etc. etc.). I'm testing out a Lowepro Protactic 450 and noticed that I could potentially pack my Bronica SQ and 80mm lens, and my Intrepid 4x5, 2 lenses for the 4x5, and still have enough room for 12 (maybe 14) film holders (plus the essentials - dark cloth, cable release, light meter, filters).

    For the 120, I was thinking of taking HP5, RPX 25, Ektar, Velvia, maybe Rollei's IR. For 4x5 I was thinking of:

    Velvia 4
    Ektar 4
    Rollei IR 4
    HP5 4
    TMX 8

    That puts me right at 12 holders and everything is arranged so it'll fit nicely in PrintFiles. I don't expect to shoot all that but wanted to have options because I don't necessarily know what I might run into.

    Bringing the SQ is honestly because I'm nervous about running out of time or film but I kinda think I'd rather leave it in the car. That means I won't necessarily be able to just go back and get it though. I was going to have some spare sheet film in the car and a changing bag if I do end up snapping off tons of images.

    That sound right or am I being overly paranoid or crazy?

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    Re: Waterfalls in Oregon Or How Many Holder to Take On a Day Hike

    I was there last year (Columbia Valley.) I didn't bother with lenses/cameras that couldn't shift. I used a Chamonix 045n and a 24mm PC-E lens on my Nikon D800E.


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    Re: Waterfalls in Oregon Or How Many Holder to Take On a Day Hike

    Quote Originally Posted by Two23 View Post
    I was there last year (Columbia Valley.) I didn't bother with lenses/cameras that couldn't shift. I used a Chamonix 045n and a 24mm PC-E lens on my Nikon D800E.
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    I was there last year and it was one fire... Out of curiosity what lens/format did you use to get that image (for next time...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMBooth View Post
    I was there last year and it was one fire... Out of curiosity what lens/format did you use to get that image (for next time...)
    Camera was a Chamonix 045n. Film was Ilford FP4. Lens was a Derogy Petzval, about 5 inch, shot wide open with 1 second exposure (using ND filters.) Lens was made 1bout 1858 so no shutter. I pretty much only shoot lenses made before 1860, or 1900-1925.


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    Re: Waterfalls in Oregon Or How Many Holder to Take On a Day Hike

    Kent, that's absolutely beautiful!!!!
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    Re: Waterfalls in Oregon Or How Many Holder to Take On a Day Hike

    To quote Henry David Thoreau; "Simplify! Simplify! Simplify!"

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    Re: Waterfalls in Oregon Or How Many Holder to Take On a Day Hike

    Remember, what goes down must come up. If you are hiking to Silver Falls, take as many holders as you are comfortable carrying out of the gorge! The hike wasn’t bad, but depends on what you are used to. Plenty of compositions to point at in that gorge. I think I took six holders down with me and could have used a few more shots.
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    Re: Waterfalls in Oregon Or How Many Holder to Take On a Day Hike

    Gosh you're making it unnecessarily complicated. Too many choices just gets confusing and wastes time and energy. And the sheer quantities : twelve holders for a short hike? Plus med format gear?? Think of view camera work like the objective of a sniper: one good shot is all that counts; and ironically, the machine-gunners and shotgunners often totally miss the target. Think twice: Is this potential shot really going to be worth printing? Otherwise you'll burn out before getting anything good, or just be prematurely exhausted lugging five time more stuff than you really need. And I do know a thing or two about strategizing Northwest waterfall shots. One more thing - having a bunch of gear left in the vehicle while you out walking is
    always a potentially expensive risk, esp in a well-known location.

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    Re: Waterfalls in Oregon Or How Many Holder to Take On a Day Hike

    I would leave the 120 for color and max out on B&W for the 4x5 -- not a whole bunch of color to take advantage of this time of year. But that's me...I carried a Rolleiflex for color along with my 8x10 (all B&W).

    Twelve holders for B&W should keep you busy all day, since you'll be doing some exploring the park for the first time. Breezes and other visitors will keep you on your toes! Run out of sheet film? Head back to the vehicle, break out the SQ and have more fun.

    Good luck!
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    Re: Waterfalls in Oregon Or How Many Holder to Take On a Day Hike

    Thanks all! Good comments all around! Also beautiful photo, Kent! We're not going there alas (partly because much of the park is still damaged by the last fire). We're going to, uhm...shoot can't remember which part it is, but it has something like 8 waterfalls within a few miles (5 I think on a 1 mile or so loop). Smaller waterfalls but I think I can get some nice intimate scenes. I won't have a long lens with me though (just a 90 and 150) which might limit me. I didn't think about needing to shift but yeah I could see needing to do some of that.

    I agree with me over complicating it haha. I expect I'll take more black and white than anything else but I wanted to have color just in case, in part because I really want to nail a shot on Velvia in 4x5 at some point. I've had ok shots in Ektar (though I wish Portra 800 was available in 4x5, it's my favorite look among the Portras) but Velvia remains elusive. IR was for a scene where I thought having white leaves might be neat and plus it's really fun to shoot.

    I had thought about just taking TMX and maybe just 2 sheets of Ektar and Velvia each to grossly simplify things down though. If it's real shady I think HP5 might become a factor though. I want to have some flowing water but want to try and keep some detail in at least some shots (as opposed to the painted look). So I was thinking that would mean exposures of around 1" or so was what I was estimating.

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