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    We are going to have a meeting with our printing vompany to try and resolve the problem with the foreign subscriptions. I apologize that this service has not gone well and we will do whatever we can to solve the problem.

    steve simmons

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    Thank you Steve. Does it means we could receive directly the magazine without mediators? It would be convenient - and cheaper-, I hope.

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    We will mail directly to Canada. Robert White in England and Mainline Photo in Australia will continue to distribute for us. Canada seems to be the problem.

    steve

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    I was a loyal subscriber to Mr.Simmons View Camera magazine for some
    13+ years and a subscriber to his Camera Arts for a year. 2002 he charged me
    $70 for six issues but sent me only one. Of my year subscription to Camera Arts
    there were two issues missing ... "because there were not many enough copies
    printed" said the girl on the phone. When I wrote to Mr. Simmons and told him
    that I thought his distribution system was "shit" , he was of course offended and
    said he did not care for my business. This is about how it feels to be his foreign
    subscriber an now he blames it on his "printing vompany"

    P.S He also uses this forum frequently for his free advertising.

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    Living in Canada, I am not surprized you have a problem mailing here. Despite the world's longest undefended border, and treaties such as NAFTA, it is extremely problematic in many odd areas moving items accross the boarder. My 14 year old son has a hard time getting his Dungeon & Dragons mag subscription on time many months. I could list many other examples. It isn't just you or VC magazine.

    I think *part* of the problem is you are perceived to be an American only magazine, a cultural import that is depriving some Canadian magazine of it's ability to present a Canadian point of view. Never mind the fact that in my memory, I have never, ever seen *any* Canadian photo magazine cover anything about large format cameras in the past ten years or so, and darn little even before that.

    There is a cynical side of me that thinks you should fill one issue full of nekkid male models, then if customs gives you a hassle, simply threaten with with a formal complaint that they are blocking your gay porn that was ordered as a present for a gay wedding. The fear of being seen and non- PC will probally make the government jump through hoops to get your magainzes here on time.

    (see - we have a sense of humour up here. Maybe not a good one mind you, but still a snese of humour.

    Personally I live downtown in my city, and the one news stand that carries View Camera is a short walk away, close to StarBucks, so once every two months I have an excuse to indulge in a magazine and an expensive but tasty latte. Decadent, but what the heck.

    But for most of my country, the population is spread far and wide, and mail is about the best an donly way to get magazines to many LF shooters. So don't give up.

    good luck

    joe
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    View Camera - Foreign Subscriptions

    I might be showing my ignorance in the subject, but isnt it the distribution vompany the one to blame instead of the printing vompany?

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    Ditto Joseph.

    In Victoria & Vancouver, many of the book stores & mag shops carry VC. Never had a problem buying it off the rack.

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    おせわに なります! Andrew O'Neill's Avatar
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    I live in Coquitlam, which is connected to Vancouver, B.C. I get my VC at a big bookstore, too. I don't understand. If bookstores can get it, how come subscribers can't? Doesn't make sense to me. Doesn't the distribution company, which I'm assuming is in the States, mail directly to the subscriber?

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    Hi Andrew et all;
    The actual mechanics of this typeof situaiton were once explained to me, and it's mind boggling. In short - politics. Our government has decided to protect "Canadian Culture". this is why Time magazine in Canada is a special "Canadian " edition, and why although 39 of the top 40 TV shows in Canada are from the USA, it is sitll illegal to purchase US statelleite TV in Canada, but it's okay if you watch those exact same shows on Canadian cable or sattellite. The list goes on and on.

    Anyhow, I am not sure of the exact situation with VC, but two things spring to mind. First, the specialty newstands and bookstores that carry VC - if you look carefully, you will see they carry many other specialty magazines from around the world, everything from quilting to gun collectiong, and more.

    My guess is they import VC and other magazines perhaps under a different classification for distribution than if they were mailed. Example - i run a small mail order business,a nd when I get a product form the USA sent via UPS or FedEx, it comes in without provincial sales taxes, because it is for reslae.

    But if that exact same company mails product to me, even thought it is packaged and marked exactly the same paper work, same packaging, same company name, etc, etc, they nail me provincial sales tax, then I have to fight to get my money back. Just happened agian to me yesterday, and this has been going on for years now, even though I wrote and complained to my MP and MPP about, but it still happens.

    Same product, same company, but all the difference in the world solely based on how the item is imported.

    So, I am not sure exaclty what Steve is up against as far as mailing VC magazine is concerned, but just seeing my little corner of hell in regards to dealing with a brian dead government mindset that often tends to ignore reality (as far as I know, there never, ever was a Canadian magazine devoted solely to LF photography, and even mags like PhotoLife seem to go out of their way to ignore anything LF), Steve is probally caught up in the same web.

    So Steve, hold your head up high - you are likely considered part of the imperialistic American cultural steam roller set on destroying Canadian identity, even though the civil servants who made this call likely haven't the foggiest idea of what a view camera is to begin with.



    joe
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    Other US based speciality photo publications have no issues with their Canadian subscribers. I have been a subscriber to LensWork for many years and to B&W since the first issue. I have never had a problem with either of these publications reaching me in Canada. I have never read about problems with these publications, but problems with View Camera subscriptions appear repeatedly on this forum. This has discouraged me from subscribing to View Camera.

    What do LensWork and B&W do that View Camera is missing (and I mean in terms of distribution, not content...)?

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