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    Re: anyone hear of using alcohol instead of photoflow as a drying agent

    Back in the 70s, Yankee made a film dryer that seemed to be a mix of something like Photoflo (it foamed a little when shaken) and alcohol (smell was obvious). I used it for drying in high humidity and the negatives dried in about a half hour rather than a full day. I see no problem with the negatives forty years later.

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    Re: anyone hear of using alcohol instead of photoflow as a drying agent

    Here in Finland even undiluted Photoflo is cheaper then Alcohol >:-D

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    Re: anyone hear of using alcohol instead of photoflow as a drying agent

    5ml photo flow + 25ml 91% isopropyl alcohol in a 4 liters of water works well.

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    Re: anyone hear of using alcohol instead of photoflow as a drying agent

    Back in the days of glass plates for holography, a series of alcohol rinses were said to reduce emulsion distortion during the drying process. We used that procedure, but I don't know if it was important.

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    Re: anyone hear of using alcohol instead of photoflow as a drying agent

    The shake test on here demonstrates how different percentages of alcohol affect surface tension of the liquid. My use of alcohol for film is simply for either cleaning or speeding drying. Distilled water by itself as a final rinse will give me film without drying spots.

    http://learntomoonshine.com/proofing...test-explained

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    Re: anyone hear of using alcohol instead of photoflow as a drying agent

    I routinely use isopropyl alcohol as a final rinse. It helps with drying, avoiding water spots, or getting microscopic particles in water drying on the film. It will sometimes remove the last bit of anti-halation dye on the film if left to soak.

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    Re: anyone hear of using alcohol instead of photoflow as a drying agent

    I have started using alcohol with a little photo flo and have noticed a small reduction in drying time. Two film drying and photo flo questions:

    - does anyone use warm (100 deg F) rinse/photo flo for black and white non C-41 film? It seems warmth speeds drying time when I run C-41.

    - does anyone use C-41 Kodak final rinse for black and white non C-41 film? I hear it is photo flo and some other stuff. I get better and faster drying performance with C-41 than I do with, say, Tri-X processed at 68 deg F for all steps.

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    Re: anyone hear of using alcohol instead of photoflow as a drying agent

    Back in the days of Prohibition, photographers were allowed to buy grain alcohol for drying negatives. Which, according to Edward Weston, was why photographers had the best parties.
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    Re: anyone hear of using alcohol instead of photoflow as a drying agent

    Quote Originally Posted by j.e.simmons View Post
    Back in the 70s, Yankee made a film dryer that seemed to be a mix of something like Photoflo (it foamed a little when shaken) and alcohol (smell was obvious). I used it for drying in high humidity and the negatives dried in about a half hour rather than a full day. I see no problem with the negatives forty years later.
    "Yankee Instant Film Dryer"

    used a lot of it!

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    Re: anyone hear of using alcohol instead of photoflow as a drying agent

    Alcohol replaces the water in the emulsion.
    Alcohol vaporizes quickly, thus dries out of the emulsion more quickly than water
    If you want to do it reeeaaallly fast, use alcohol, then ether- watch out for explosion and a bad headache

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