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    Re: ID'ing film holders

    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh View Post
    OK. So is this insertable/changeable by the user?

    I've never encountered such a facility.

    - Leigh
    Not in the Linhof holders unless you have an unnumbered set and can make a set of numbers and can carefully glue them in place to expose the number on the edge of the film.
    But you have long seen friskit info on prints. Just think back to all those old convention, banquet, class pictures from the late 19th century through the 1920s and 30s. That description on the bottom of the print was the result of a friskit.
    In the USAF in the early 60s during the Cuban Crisis we put info on the prints with friskits on the bottom of the prints. Today most of that type of info is done with LEDs in the camera.

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    Re: ID'ing film holders

    Hi Bob,

    Yes, I've certainly seen white legends on prints.
    I always assumed they were done in the printing process, not when exposing the film.

    An opaque legend over the film would result in a clear imprint on the negative, which would print dead black.
    That appears to be the expected result with the Linhof friskets.

    Thanks.

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    Re: ID'ing film holders

    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh View Post
    Hi Bob,

    Yes, I've certainly seen white legends on prints.
    I always assumed they were done in the printing process, not when exposing the film.

    An opaque legend over the film would result in a clear imprint on the negative, which would print dead black.
    That appears to be the expected result with the Linhof friskets.

    Thanks.

    - Leigh
    You can put friskits on film or on the printing paper. Black type on clear base will result in white type on either a print or film.

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    Re: ID'ing film holders

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Salomon View Post
    Black type on clear base will result in white type on either a print or film.
    But black type on the film results in black type on the print.

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    Re: ID'ing film holders

    The Linhof holders put the number on the edge of the film, it would show in a contact print but not in an enlargement. It was made to ID which side of which holder the shot was made on. Not to be descriptive in an enlargement.

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    Re: ID'ing film holders

    Quote Originally Posted by Leigh View Post
    But black type on the film results in black type on the print.

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    And black on the film is white on a print. Unless it is reversal film.

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    Re: ID'ing film holders

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Salomon View Post
    The Linhof holders put the number on the edge of the film, it would show in a contact print but not in an enlargement. It was made to ID which side of which holder the shot was made on. Not to be descriptive in an enlargement.
    Ah. Understand. Thanks.

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    Re: ID'ing film holders

    Greg,

    I've notched all my film holders with small notches on the flap, as you have. I find it works well and is outside the image area, so I can use the entire image full-frame if desired.

    I use a Roman numeral system: small half-round notch for I, a "v"-shaped notch for V, a small square notch for X a small rectangular notch with a small "tail" (upside-down L) for L and, finally, a larger dish-shaped notch (made with a larger half-round file) for C. Numbering up to 200 is no problem (I've got about 80 film holders, all numbered in sequence).

    Example, holder 24 would be XXIV in Roman numerals, which translates to " |_| |_| U V " in notches (approximately... the square notches are smaller in reality, but you get the idea).

    I don't think I'd risk drilling holes in the darkslide.

    Best,

    Doremus

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    Re: ID'ing film holders

    I have film holders which have 2 small transparent dials on them with digit's 0 to 9 on each film side, so you can number each exposure as the shadows are cast onto the film during exposure.

    I think they are Lisco Elite II.....the ones with the darkslide lock.

    Mike

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    Re: ID'ing film holders

    I do pretty much what Doremus describes.
    I bought a set of miniature files; the thin straight file is 1, "v" is 5, and half-circle is 10.
    I never take notes, but if a problem arises, it saves a lot of time to know which holder was involved, that's why I notch my holders.

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