Scanning Wet Mount Fluid

[macolive]

I can't get Kami here in the Philippines. The european distributor is willing send it to me via fedex in a fireproof box but the whole cost becomes so prohibitive. I'll give the mineral spirits a try.

How do you guys clean up the negs after? I saw this on the 3M website http://solutions.3mphilippines.com.p...be28QWC1BS6Fgl but they only have it here in industrial quantities. (60 lb. drum is what they said they had).

[Doug Fisher]

Did you go to your local art supply store and see if they have some Gamsol? It could save you quite a bit of money.

Look for some PEC pads to clean your film. I think it comes in bottle form too.

Doug

[macolive]

Did you go to your local art supply store and see if they have some Gamsol? It could save you quite a bit of money.

Look for some PEC pads to clean your film. I think it comes in bottle form too.

Doug

Thanks Doug! I found the Gamsol. Now PEC i have ti track down here.

[Jac@stafford.net]

This thread or a summary of it could become a Sticky or FAQ. I'm certain that in the future more of us will be looking for a good source for mounting fluid.

Just my X0 bits.

[StoneNYC]

Is there a place to buy the Kami fluid besides direct from the manufacturer, they want like $30 for shipping a tiny bottle. It's a little ridiculous.

[Doug Fisher]

The GWJ company that I mention on my cheap supplies page (http://www.betterscanning.com/scanni...dmounting.html) had better final total prices than Kami the last time I checked. If you live in a big city and don't want to try Gamsol, you should try calling around to local printing supply houses to see if they have Kami in stock for pickup versus shipping.

Doug

[j.e.simmons]

From looking at the MSDS, it would appear one could make scanning fluid from 10% mineral spirits and 90% naphtha. But I don't know anything - do any of our chemists have a comment?

[Pere Casals]

From looking at the MSDS, it would appear one could make scanning fluid from 10% mineral spirits and 90% naphtha. But I don't know anything - do any of our chemists have a comment?

If you want to later clean the film with cleaner there are many options, Johnson's baby oil is just perfect.

Kami (the one I use) eveporates completely so cleaning is not required. Also I think Lumina.


Any mineral spirits, naphtha etc can contain a diluted little fraction of heavier oils that later won't evaporate fast at all.

So a scanning fluid has to be processed to not contain at all heavy oils, I guess it can be done with distillation at low pressure and low temperture.

Then it can be done with spirits and naphtha, but make sure that each ingredient evaporates completely, if not you'll need to clean the film, and in that case better to use Kami.

[Jim Michael]

If you are willing to experiment, source the ingredients locally (paint department of the hardware store) and see if a few drops of your home brew evaporate cleanly from a piece of glass. Chemicals are sold in varying degrees of purity but I'd start with something easily sourced first.

[Pere Casals]

If you are willing to experiment, source the ingredients locally (paint department of the hardware store) and see if a few drops of your home brew evaporate cleanly from a piece of glass. Chemicals are sold in varying degrees of purity but I'd start with something easily sourced first.

Also refractive index of the scanning fluid can be important, I'd say it has to be close to that the one glass can have, I guess that the recommended naphtha-spirits mix is to obtain that suitable refractive index. So take a refractometer, then meter Kami and then make mix that has with same index.

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/...nalCode=enfuem

At the end a bottle of Kami or Lumina may last years long for most of us.

But if anybody has a clear good, trusted experience, I'd like to know it.