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    Re: 4x10 Arca Swiss/Horseman/Sinar P2 Conversion kits on Ebay

    Whoops - sometimes it takes someone else to point out what should be obvious! I'm used to Sinars and so don't usually think about the implications of the L-frame. Thanks.

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    Re: 4x10 Arca Swiss/Horseman/Sinar P2 Conversion kits on Ebay

    No problem Oren... Understood in full.
    Yes, my original comment of course... Was only 'in reference' to the Horseman L-Series Cameras.
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    Although, we would all like to own Sinar Cameras...
    Some of us 'mere mortals' -- Have to settle for Horseman.

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    Re: 4x10 Arca Swiss/Horseman/Sinar P2 Conversion kits on Ebay

    I talked to the manufacturer about the wide angle bellow and he will consider to provide. But any idea or suggestion that you can provide?


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    Re: 4x10 Arca Swiss/Horseman/Sinar P2 Conversion kits on Ebay

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Davis View Post
    I saw those and have also wondered what holders fit. I take it there are two types of holders? Long 4x5 size and narrow &x10?
    There are 4x10 film holders available from different sources like Canham Cameras, Chamonix, Lotus Cameras etc.

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    Re: 4x10 Arca Swiss/Horseman/Sinar P2 Conversion kits on Ebay

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    I talked to the manufacturer about the wide angle bellow and he will consider to provide. But any idea or suggestion that you can provide?


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    The ideal solution would be interchangeable bellows, or at lest an option with a bag bellows which allow the use of lenses from 90 to 360mm.
    A SK SA 90/5,6 XL can cover 4x10 with 5mm movements. 110-125mm Wide angle lenses from the big four manufacturers are very popular and can use 27-35 mm shift in 4x10 horizontal. 150-165 mm wide angle lenses can use 90-100mm shift, like many 300-360 mm lenses wich are also very popular and need a wide angle bellows to provide all it´s movement capabilities.
    As important as the bellows is the ground glass. The ground glass must provide even illumination with wide angle lenses, or allow the use of a fresnel lens on it that should be available from the maker. Using wide angle lenses in LF without a fresnel lens ground glass is frustrating and not an option in my case.

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    Re: 4x10 Arca Swiss/Horseman/Sinar P2 Conversion kits on Ebay

    Hi to All,

    I saw this thread the other day and gave it some serious thought….how can I help?....I bought my 4x10 last year, after spending a long time researching and looking for cameras….believe me I owe a bunch of prints to friends on this site after bending their tripod legs….a good friend sent me some 4x10 holders and I thought I was on my way, well yes, sort of (1 Century X-Ray, 1 Lisco Cut Film and 3 New in the box Lisco Regal X-Ray holders)….Kerry Thalmann said get the holders first, OK I did….after a time I started to realize that all 4x10 are not created equal (ie Wisner and Canham format)….the early Wisners used early 4x10 cut film and X-Ray holders….the Canham format used a split 8x10 holder….so what’s the difference the X-Ray holder are narrower and a bit shorter….some of the X-Ray holders do not have any stops on the top end….I will try to include some images so you can see the difference….if you want to see what I am doing go to the Verve Gallery page and look me up. jan
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