Alternatives to Travelwide ? > Linhof Technica Handheld Realistic ?

**jbenedict** · 6-Feb-2016, 07:01

Millions of Speed and Crown Graphic users can't be wrong!

**Alan Gales** · 6-Feb-2016, 10:17

Medium format?

It's a lot easier to hold a Mamiya 7 steady than a Crown Graphic.

**Bob Salomon** · 6-Feb-2016, 11:16

Originally Posted by jbenedict

Millions of Speed and Crown Graphic users can't be wrong!

Millions? Really? Many would be much more accurate.

**ic-racer** · 6-Feb-2016, 11:51

Large format films are not fast enough for sharp hand-held 4x5 and larger unless one uses a flash. Stabilizing gyro is also an alternative. Just because one can build a camera does not mean it will be useful.

**Kirk Gittings** · 6-Feb-2016, 12:13

Originally Posted by ic-racer

Large format films are not fast enough for sharp hand-held 4x5 and larger unless one uses a flash. Stabilizing gyro is also an alternative. Just because one can build a camera does not mean it will be useful.

That is what I believe too. My TW was never intended to be used handheld but as a quick grab 4X5 on a tripod when the subject or light does not allow enough time to set up a proper 4x5 VC.

**Dan Fromm** · 6-Feb-2016, 12:16

Originally Posted by ic-racer

Large format films are not fast enough for sharp hand-held 4x5 and larger unless one uses a flash. Stabilizing gyro is also an alternative. Just because one can build a camera does not mean it will be useful.

Interesting. What's the difference between shooting ISO 100 film in a handheld 35 mm camera and a 25 mm lens and shooting ISO 100 film in a handheld TW and a 90 mm lens? Yeah, I know, the TW is heavier so steadier.

**cuypers1807** · 6-Feb-2016, 12:53

Originally Posted by ic-racer

Large format films are not fast enough for sharp hand-held 4x5 and larger unless one uses a flash. Stabilizing gyro is also an alternative. Just because one can build a camera does not mean it will be useful.

I get sharp images from my Razzle 900 with a 150mm hand held. I find it becomes a problem under 1/125 sec. 1/60 is about as slow as I will go.

**jbenedict** · 6-Feb-2016, 13:16

Originally Posted by Bob Salomon

Millions? Really? Many would be much more accurate.

First Speed came out in 1917. Made in 4 sizes. Have no idea how many were made. Pretty sure that was more than one single user per camera. Millions is as accurate as anything

**Bob Salomon** · 6-Feb-2016, 13:31

Originally Posted by jbenedict

First Speed came out in 1917. Made in 4 sizes. Have no idea how many were made. Pretty sure that was more than one single user per camera. Millions is as accurate as anything

Not if you are looking at current users.

**ic-racer** · 6-Feb-2016, 15:25

Originally Posted by Dan Fromm

Interesting. What's the difference between shooting ISO 100 film in a handheld 35 mm camera and a 25 mm lens and shooting ISO 100 film in a handheld TW and a 90 mm lens? Yeah, I know, the TW is heavier so steadier.

The problem is that since the camera is so close to one's body, the heart beat and respirations will blur the image. You need to get the camera away from the body like this for optimum results. In fact I have already dismantled the roof platform on my station wagon...