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    Re: DIY Open Source Field Camera Design

    It's probably obvious to most, but scaling down or up between different formats is not going to be equal in all three dimensions. Thickness and weight are going to be factors with the materials to be used, so a simple scaling in the XY plane will very likely be different than the remaining third dimension.

    Film holder specifications for different formats are a good example of this.

    Just thinking aloud...

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    Re: DIY Open Source Field Camera Design

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    I agree, use published data. 8x10 is a well known size, ULF can differ.

    Single Measurements are often crude and inaccurate.

    You will never get us to measure 100's of them for a statistical study.
    Agreed. Here's some measurements and data I made or gathered from the web for whole-plate holders. They are all over the place.

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    I would strongly recommend obtaining the actual ANSI specifications for 8x10 holders and going with that. Somewhere I have a copy and I'll look for the numbers. (The derived one illustrated on the web is not accurate.) In any event, I think the cost of the actual ANSI document is something like $35 and it contains all the other standard large formats (except whole-plate). IIRC, I think it went to up to 14x17 or 16x20 as well.

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    Re: DIY Open Source Field Camera Design

    I found this quick little weekend project very inspiring:

    https://www.behance.net/gallery/1269...-of-Jirkon-4x5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Smigiel View Post

    I would strongly recommend obtaining the actual ANSI specifications for 8x10 holders and going with that. Somewhere I have a copy and I'll look for the numbers. (The derived one illustrated on the web is not accurate.) In any event, I think the cost of the actual ANSI document is something like $35 and it contains all the other standard large formats (except whole-plate). IIRC, I think it went to up to 14x17 or 16x20 as well.
    I just searched and browsed through the ISO and ANSI websites and cannot locate the relevant standard. I located the specs for the sizes of sheet film: DIN ISO 1012:2000, but not the film holders. And the prices for various documents ranged from about $80-$300.

    Can somebody help here? Joe if you have it, that would be fabulous!

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    Re: DIY Open Source Field Camera Design

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moe View Post
    I agree, use published data. 8x10 is a well known size, ULF can differ.

    Single Measurements are often crude and inaccurate.

    You will never get us to measure 100's of them for a statistical study.
    Ok, can you supply the needed specs?

    I can't.

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    Re: DIY Open Source Field Camera Design

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Moore View Post
    I found this quick little weekend project very inspiring:

    https://www.behance.net/gallery/1269...-of-Jirkon-4x5
    Having occasionally made small metal parts with basic tools, I'm impressed by Jirka's skill. One suggestion: long slots in aluminum can be made on a table saw with a fence. Exercise care both for results and for safety.

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    Re: DIY Open Source Field Camera Design

    Quote Originally Posted by brandon allen View Post
    I just searched and browsed through the ISO and ANSI websites and cannot locate the relevant standard. I located the specs for the sizes of sheet film: DIN ISO 1012:2000, but not the film holders. And the prices for various documents ranged from about $80-$300.

    Can somebody help here? Joe if you have it, that would be fabulous!

    ANSI IT3.108 1998 Edition, April 28, 1998
    Photography (Cameras) - Double Film Holders (Lock-Rib Type) - Dimensions

    Here's the page:
    https://global.ihs.com/doc_detail.cf...put_doc_title=

    $25 but it looks like it is no longer available through this source.

    Here's another possible way of ordering it though I don't know if the cost would be the same.

    ANSI/PIMA IT3.108-1998, Photography (Cameras) - Double Film
    Holders (Lock-Rib Type) - Dimensions (withdrawal of ANSI/PIMA
    IT3.108-1998)
    Order from: ANSl
    Send comments (with copy to BSR) to: James Peyton, I3A;
    i3astds@i3a.o

    I'll look for my long lost copy.

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    Re: DIY Open Source Field Camera Design

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Moore View Post
    I found this quick little weekend project very inspiring:

    https://www.behance.net/gallery/1269...-of-Jirkon-4x5
    It's people like that who make us up our game... I bet that took more than a weekend!

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    Re: DIY Open Source Field Camera Design

    Hello guys are we getting any closer to camera design i'm getting anxious to build my 8x10 field camera and I'm not getting any younger.
    Thanks

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    Re: DIY Open Source Field Camera Design

    Just collecting possibilities:

    Delrin racks, in a couple of sizes: I prefer the smaller 0.5 mod. http://www.motionco.co.uk/racks-plas...-32_42_71.html
    Matching delrin spur gears: smaller the better for precise focus: http://www.motionco.co.uk/spur-gears...-32_33_34.html

    Both very reasonably priced but delrin can be a devil to glue to anything.

    Neil

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