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Thread: Shenhao 8X10 FCL-810 AC or Wilderness V 8x10 ?

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    Re: Shenhao 8X10 FCL-810 AC or Wilderness V 8x10 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Mann View Post
    A studio camera vs a field camera would not need to consider the effect of wind, I have to believe a triangle design would be more rigid than a single contact surface - but, then I am not an engineer.
    Me neither, my degree is in architecture.

    Both the Arca and the Sinar are quite happy out in the field, and wind is not an issue with them, or at least, wind will be the same issue as with any other camera of similar size.

    I see you're just across the sound from me, nice pictures on your website-
    If you're open to converting you're welcome to come and try out a couple of my cameras...

    Belief is a powerful thing, and forum guidelines prohibit me from evangelising any further...

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    Re: Shenhao 8X10 FCL-810 AC or Wilderness V 8x10 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottishMan View Post
    I think he had a Shen-Hao here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xarIyRnrAl8
    Also seen with a Shen Hao in those Kickstarter videos.
    Bob

    There's mosquitoes on the river, fish are rising up like birds. It's been hot for seven weeks now, too hot to even speak now, did you hear what I just heard?

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    Re: Shenhao 8X10 FCL-810 AC or Wilderness V 8x10 ?

    And the 12x20 is a Wisner Traditional.
    Lachlan.

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    Re: Shenhao 8X10 FCL-810 AC or Wilderness V 8x10 ?

    Thanks all for your helpful replies.

    I deciced to go with the Shen-Hao, since I have two Shen-Hao's already (PTB-45 and the HZX-something 5x7) and I have received excellent customer support from them directly from China with the PTB-45, although I bought it used ...
    The Chamonix was the best contender, but it was about 25% more expensive; maybe it is worth it, I don't know, but I trust the Shen-Hao will do the job :-).

    I also received a great offer to buy a Chamonix 8x10 in great condition for an excellent price, but just 30 minutes after I payed for the Shen-Hao ! I hope the Shen will make me forget that offer :-).

    Stefan.

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    Re: Shenhao 8X10 FCL-810 AC or Wilderness V 8x10 ?

    It will. They are lovely things to use. Well done on your choice.

    RR

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    Re: Shenhao 8X10 FCL-810 AC or Wilderness V 8x10 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jb7 View Post
    ......
    I see you're just across the sound from me, nice pictures on your website-
    If you're open to converting you're welcome to come and try out a couple of my cameras...
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    Thanks for the offer and compliment, as for the camera design choice perhaps sticking with a known major brand is wiser - Wilderness seems to be Chinese maker without many users posting their experiences.

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    Re: Shenhao 8X10 FCL-810 AC or Wilderness V 8x10 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by csxcnj View Post
    Well there are photos of Clyde Butcher using. Shen Hao 8x10...
    Quote Originally Posted by ScottishMan View Post
    I think he had a Shen-Hao here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xarIyRnrAl8
    That looks like a non-folding Shen-Hao TFC810A:

    It appears Clyde found Ansel's Winter Sunrise appealing, but decided to get up a little later, go vertical and use the moon rather than a horse to set things off. I wonder whether the Lone Pine High School whitewashed letters are still on those foreground hills and, if so, how Clyde "spotted" them out, i.e. with dye on his negative or in Photoshop.

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    Re: Shenhao 8X10 FCL-810 AC or Wilderness V 8x10 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jb7 View Post
    ...It amazes me...that all the Phillips copies never once addressed the issue of having to assemble the camera in the field...
    What issue? Do you mean having to lock the rear standard in an upright position and screw the front standard into the bed? The other typical field camera front standard approach is triangle struts there too. Any design that works without these types of "assembly" in the field is called non-folding. There are plenty of those, including the Shen-Hao TFC810A I linked to in post #27.

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    Re: Shenhao 8X10 FCL-810 AC or Wilderness V 8x10 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Santamaura View Post
    What issue? Do you mean having to lock the rear standard in an upright position and screw the front standard into the bed? The other typical field camera front standard approach is triangle struts there too. Any design that works without these types of "assembly" in the field is called non-folding. There are plenty of those, including the Shen-Hao TFC810A I linked to in post #27.

    Assembly means screwing together two unconnected components.

    Rotating a standard into position does not constitute assembly.

    There are any number of folding field cameras that do not require assembly.

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    Re: Shenhao 8X10 FCL-810 AC or Wilderness V 8x10 ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jb7 View Post
    Assembly means screwing together two unconnected components.

    Rotating a standard into position does not constitute assembly.

    There are any number of folding field cameras that do not require assembly.

    OK, but in this case the assembly work is hardly more onerous than rotating the front standard into position and the design is light and compact with good rigidity due to it's simplicity.

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