Rodenstock Grandagon 75/4.5 for 6x12, 6x17?

[IanG]

Hmm, would a 90mm be better?
I really don't know how wide I need, nor want.
Thinking of panoramic vistas, or something...

It's a personal choice I had a 90mm SA as well as a 75mm SA for my Gaoersi 617 camera, I found I never used the 90mm and it's sat idle. I don't find the 75mm particularly wide in terms of the areas of landscape I shoot, it's close to using a 150mm with 5x4 or my TLRs on 120 in the horizontal aspect. In big wide open spaces then it may well be different.

Ian

[StoneNYC]

It's a personal choice I had a 90mm SA as well as a 75mm SA for my Gaoersi 617 camera, I found I never used the 90mm and it's sat idle. I don't find the 75mm particularly wide in terms of the areas of landscape I shoot, it's close to using a 150mm with 5x4 or my TLRs on 120 in the horizontal aspect. In big wide open spaces then it may well be different.

Ian

Ian,

I'm questioning weather you er'd?

I say this as for horizontal view, a 6x17 is 5x7 with the top and bottom cut off (essentially) so how you think 75mm on 6x17 is anywhere near close as 150mm on 4x5 makes no sense to me.

If you had said 150mm on 8x10 is close to 75mm on 6x17, that would make a little more sense (though really 75mm on 6x17 is closer to 120mm on 8x10).

Maybe I missed something or maybe you said it backward?

[IanG]

Stone, I did use the word Horizontal when I meant Vertical, my mistake, it should have been:

I don't find the 75mm particularly wide in terms of the areas of landscape I shoot, it's close to using a 150mm with 5x4 or my TLRs on 120 in the vertical aspect. In big wide open spaces then it may well be different.

75/80mm lens is standard on a 6x6 camera, so the vertical aspect is similar from the same position whether you are shooting 6x6, 6x12 or 6x17 with a 75mm lens. So I think of a panoramic camera in terms of the vertical aspect first and then the wide panoramic horizontal aspect second. It's just my way of working, of course you could work the other way around.

If I was shooting 10x4 panoramas with my 10x8 camera then yes I'd want something slightly wider than a 150mm.

Ian

[StoneNYC]

Stone, I did use the word Horizontal when I meant Vertical, my mistake, it should have been:

I don't find the 75mm particularly wide in terms of the areas of landscape I shoot, it's close to using a 150mm with 5x4 or my TLRs on 120 in the vertical aspect. In big wide open spaces then it may well be different.

75/80mm lens is standard on a 6x6 camera, so the vertical aspect is similar from the same position whether you are shooting 6x6, 6x12 or 6x17 with a 75mm lens. So I think of a panoramic camera in terms of the vertical aspect first and then the wide panoramic horizontal aspect second. It's just my way of working, of course you could work the other way around.

If I was shooting 10x4 panoramas with my 10x8 camera then yes I'd want something slightly wider than a 150mm.

Ian

Ahh!!! That makes perfect sense!

I find the 150mm very wide, I can't really see a reason to go wider, there was a nice nikon 110m or 120mm at a fair price a few weeks ago that covered 8x10 and I decided I really just don't need it that wide for any of my work, however I DO know people who make amazing images for such a wide setup, I just can't seem to do it, I gravitate to the 90mm (4x5) or 210mm (8x10) more than anything for wide.

A few examples (not my best work just examples).

examples... 4x5 cropped to 6x17...

75mm


90mm


Examples 8x10 cropped to 4x10 (note 4x10 is slightly less wide horizontally and more high vertically than 6x17 but still helps visualize for the OP I think)

150mm (75mm-ish equivalent for 6x17)


210mm (90mm-ish equivalent for 6x17)

[cyron123]

Hi,
Do you need a center filter for the S.A. 75mm or the Grandagon 75km?

[djdister]

Hi,
Do you need a center filter for the S.A. 75mm or the Grandagon 75km?

I've used the Nikkor-SW 75mm on 4x5 and 5x7 without a center filter and barely see any ill effects...

[StoneNYC]

Hi,
Do you need a center filter for the S.A. 75mm or the Grandagon 75km?

I never found a need for it on my 75mm Grandagon-N on 4x5, I found it much better than my 150 SS XL on 8x10.

75mm Grandagon-N on TMY-2 4x5

[Alan Gales]

I never found a need for it on my 75mm Grandagon-N on 4x5, I found it much better than my 150 SS XL on 8x10.

75mm Grandagon-N on TMY-2 4x5

I bet your girlfriend won't eat anything prepared in your kitchen!

[StoneNYC]

I bet your girlfriend won't eat anything prepared in your kitchen!

A vagrant broke into my house about a year ago, he was cold and made a fire in the attic. I figured it was a good opportunity to take pictures in a burnt house legally. I don't live there anymore.

[buggz]

Wow, 75 looks really wide.
Perhaps, I'll get a 90 first, then go from there.
Thanks to everyone for the information and a great forum!