Badger Graphics sells 8 X 10 Ebony Cameras, quoted me a price and a time to delivery, all within the last week. The guy with whom I spoke there(sorry, I'm not great with names) spoke pretty knowledgeably about Ebony cameras, and did seem to have experience with them. I would call Badger about this if you want to know more. The price, as noted elsewhere in this forum, is somewhat of a deterent. Their (cheaper) mahogany model is $US5500, and the ebony one is $US6300 in 8 X 10. It did seem to me that it might offer some advantages over the Wisner Expedition/Pocket Expedition. I will post further if I do end up getting any hands-on experience with the Ebony camera in 8 X 10.