is there a way to get grain in 4x5?

[analoguey]

Yeah, with roll film. But not with sheet film.

Yes, I know that Delta 3200 doesn't come in 4x5 format. That's why there's roll film backs, or a person can tape the film into a holder.

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That looks like a great thing to experiment with - how did you process the 35mm film afterwards? I suppose you shot them stuck to one side of a holder?

[jnantz]

Definitely recommend Dektol - 1:3 dilution. Grainy as all get-out, but still sharp. Times will be FAST with Dektol - 3 minutes @ 75 degrees F. Another thing you can do to boost the grain is to run it hot - 75F to 80F (don't go too much hotter or you'll risk reticulating the film).

ive run it 80ish and all my emulsion came off rhe film. was using. i dont recommend running it too hot ...
thaks scott for times although 1:3 is kind of short in the soup ..
... isnt development risky/uneven at times less than 5 mins ?
( even the shuffle )

[Brian C. Miller]

That looks like a great thing to experiment with - how did you process the 35mm film afterwards? I suppose you shot them stuck to one side of a holder?

I did this for another thread in the Lounge, on the eventual death of sheet film. This one was my second attempt. The film was taped on the inside of an 8x10 holder (learned lesson: curly side in faces the lens!), and then I loaded it onto a Jobo reel (learned lesson: film can overlap! Tape it first, the refix the ends.)

[Scott Davis]

ive run it 80ish and all my emulsion came off rhe film. was using. i dont recommend running it too hot ...
thaks scott for times although 1:3 is kind of short in the soup ..
... isnt development risky/uneven at times less than 5 mins ?
( even the shuffle )

That is certainly possible. I did this with Kodak Tmax 3200 35mm film, and gave more frequent if shorter agitation cycles; everything came out perfectly even. If I were going to try this for sheet film, I'd run it in my Jobo using the P setting used for C-41 instead of the minimal setting I use for running Pyro. Combine the potency of Dektol with the vigorous agitation of the faster setting on the Jobo and you should have a great recipe for grainy sheet film.

[stradibarrius]

Well I took two exposures and processed both in rodinal . One I use normal gentle inversion and the other replacing the inversions for shaking the tank end to end. Not exactly what I was looking for. Neither of these have been Photo Shopped only crop to 50%.

[djdister]

Well I took two exposures and processed both in rodinal . One I use normal gentle inversion and the other replacing the inversions for shaking the tank end to end. Not exactly what I was looking for. Neither of these have been Photo Shopped only crop to 50%.

Not sure TMax (or any T-grain film) is the best choice for this kind of effect - would suggest Tri-X or Fomapan instead...

[StoneNYC]

Well I took two exposures and processed both in rodinal . One I use normal gentle inversion and the other replacing the inversions for shaking the tank end to end. Not exactly what I was looking for. Neither of these have been Photo Shopped only crop to 50%.

Which film?

I assume the second one is the shaken? Seems grainy in the shadows at least.

As I said you might need to adjust exposure, try again with less exposure?

Sorry it didn't help as much as you had hoped...

Why do you need it to be 4x5 again? Can you get away with a 6x7 roll film back on a 4x5? You'll still have the control of LF but with more inherent grain?

This doesn't look like HP5+ by the way, which film did you use?

[stradibarrius]

Hp5

[djdister]

Hp5

The photos had "TMax" in the filenames, so they were really HP5?

[stradibarrius]

Let try again... In the other post One of the shots had been PP'd. The title in the block says TMax but it is not both are HP5.
HP5 in Rodinal