Heliar: coated or uncoated?

[Ari]

Well, I just got myself an early, uncoated, 30cm brass Heliar from a very kind forum member.
I'll post a few comparison shots (Heliar, G&C, and 12" CE) in due time.
Until then, thanks for everybody's input.

[Ari]

I have a question, now that a 30cm Heliar lens is on its way to me:

Were I to want to get a shutter, I've read that the Compound V is the one that will fit.

My question is, does it attach by front-mounting, or can I attach each element to both front and rear of the shutter?

Thank you

[Tracy Storer]

I had my 11.75" (300mm basically) Heliar mounted (actually mounted with the shutter in between the lens cells) in an Ilex 5 by SKG.

[Ari]

Thanks, Tracy; so to mount to an Ilex 5, were adapter/spacer rings needed?
I'd love to be able to afford SKG, but too often, they are out of my price range.

[Tim Deming]

I have a question, now that a 30cm Heliar lens is on its way to me:

Were I to want to get a shutter, I've read that the Compound V is the one that will fit.

My question is, does it attach by front-mounting, or can I attach each element to both front and rear of the shutter?

Thank you

A barrel 30cm heliar cells wont fit directly into a compound 5. Voigtlander used different mounts for barrel and shuttered lenses, and changed this tooling often over the years. You will have to do a custom mounting to get your barrel cells to fit into any shutter

Cheers

Tim

[jesse]

I have a question, now that a 30cm Heliar lens is on its way to me:

Were I to want to get a shutter, I've read that the Compound V is the one that will fit.

My question is, does it attach by front-mounting, or can I attach each element to both front and rear of the shutter?

Thank you

It is better to fit it into a Sinar shutter.

[Steven Tribe]

If you only have a limited number of barrel lenses (apart from the 30cm Heliar), a more economic choice would be a front mounted T-P shutter - or even a Zettor type. These are readily available in sizes which would match the Heliar - but become more difficult to find for 36 and 42cm versions. Contrary to some popular misconceptions, these are absolutely secure in function and even apparent deceased shutters can be made to work well. The copal/sinar shutter is very useful, but there are many cameras where an adaption to fit it behind the lens board/front standard and the bellows makes for an ugly result.

[Ari]

Thank you, Tim, Jesse and Steven.
A Sinar shutter is not likely, as fitting it to a Toyo 810M would indeed be awkward and ugly, and may prevent the camera from folding normally.
Steven, I've not considered the Thornton-Pickard, but will investigate; thanks for the information.

[Ari]

Another question, please indulge me.

There are two serial numbers on the Heliar I just purchased, see photo.

Which is the serial number? There's about 30 years between those serial numbers.
I'm inclined to guess that the number next to No. is the actual serial number, which would date it to 1906.

It's not important, but I am curious.
Thanks in advance.

[Dan Fromm]

D.R.P. 124934 = German Patent 124934








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