Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Thread: Rollo - Pyro info help

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    34

    Rollo - Pyro info help

    I tried to search for information about the my system processing.
    This will be first developed by Rollo Pyro (ABC)
    I would use Jobo CPE 2500 tank system (2520) for the sheet of 4x5 film. This system is minimal 270ml tank, I do not know exactly how much liquid can contain 400ml perhaps ...
    Has anyone ever used the tank in 2500 with ABC Pyro?
    Do I have be careful attention to something in particular?
    Thanks

  2. #2
    Kirk Gittings's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Albuquerque, Nuevo Mexico
    Posts
    9,864

    Re: Rollo - Pyro info help

    Not sure this is of any use but........I use Pyrocat HD in Glycol in tubes. When I first decide to switch to a pyro developer I originally thought I should use Rollo Pyro but PCHD works perfectly in tubes. Many people worry about oxidation of the dev in rotational development. If you are worried about oxidation the only place I find it is an issue is if I mix the working developer to long before I use actually it. That is where I have found oxidation to be an issue-not in the actual development.So I mix it as the last thing I do before development and it works fine. As an example PCHD has plenty of strength to do extended (+) developments even in the 2 oz volume required for BTZS tubes.
    Last edited by Kirk Gittings; 22-May-2014 at 15:33.
    Thanks,
    Kirk

    at age 73:
    "The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
    But I have promises to keep,
    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep"

  3. #3
    matthew blais's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Riverside, CA
    Posts
    746

    Re: Rollo - Pyro info help

    I use the 2500 tanks...And ALWAYS hand invert the tank a few times then place back on the roller base.
    Seemed to eliminate some streaking problems...and I almost always use 1000 ml to do 8 sheets on two reels
    "I invent nothing, I rediscover"
    August Rodin

    My Now old Photo Site

  4. #4

    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    34

    Re: Rollo - Pyro info help

    I read about PyroHD, it looks even better.
    My question is if there is a minimum amount of development or I can work quietly with 300 cc of solution.

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    5,506

    Re: Rollo - Pyro info help

    Quote Originally Posted by zone View Post
    I read about PyroHD, it looks even better.
    My question is if there is a minimum amount of development or I can work quietly with 300 cc of solution.
    The minimum amount of Pyrocat-HD, with the 1+1+100 dilution, is about 250 ml of working solution per sheet of 8X10 film. For a sheet of 4X5" film the minimum is about 75 ml.

    Don't confuse Rollo Pyro with ABC Pyro. Rollo Pyro is based on a formula developed by Harald Leban in the late 1990s, that he called ABC+. It is similar to PMK, but stronger, and contains ascorbic acid to slow oxidation, and some bromide to cut fog. ABC Pyro is an old Kodak formula used by, among many others, Weston.

    Sandy
    For discussion and information about carbon transfer please visit the carbon group at groups.io
    [url]https://groups.io/g/carbon

  6. #6

    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Torrevieja, Spain
    Posts
    173

    Re: Rollo - Pyro info help

    Quote Originally Posted by sanking View Post
    The minimum amount of Pyrocat-HD, with the 1+1+100 dilution, is about 250 ml of working solution per sheet of 8X10 film. For a sheet of 4X5" film the minimum is about 75 ml.
    [...]
    Sandy, and what if the dilution is 2:2:100? What is then the minimum working dilution per 4x5 sheet?

  7. #7
    Luis
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Spain
    Posts
    26

    Re: Rollo - Pyro info help

    Don't mistake the minimum amount to cover a sheet with the amount needed to develop it. Concentration may reduce the amount needed, but if it doesn't cover it you'll end wasting film

  8. #8

    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    34

    Re: Rollo - Pyro info help

    Quote Originally Posted by sanking View Post
    The minimum amount of Pyrocat-HD, with the 1+1+100 dilution, is about 250 ml of working solution per sheet of 8X10 film. For a sheet of 4X5" film the minimum is about 75 ml.

    Don't confuse Rollo Pyro with ABC Pyro. Rollo Pyro is based on a formula developed by Harald Leban in the late 1990s, that he called ABC+. It is similar to PMK, but stronger, and contains ascorbic acid to slow oxidation, and some bromide to cut fog. ABC Pyro is an old Kodak formula used by, among many others, Weston.

    Sandy
    Hi ...
    i've bought Rollo Pyro (ABC PLUS PYRO DEVELOPER, by PHOTOGRAPHERS' Formulary inc; http://stores.photoformulary.com/abc...ilm-developer/ )
    into user guide attachment there are solutions 1:2:100 or 1:2:75
    My jobo tank 2550 is for six 4x5 sheet in 300cc of solution.
    So i use:
    3cc of solution A
    6cc of sol B
    300cc of water or 225cc in case of 1:2:75
    So i've thought that 3cc+6cc+100 may be very low.

  9. #9

    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    34

    Re: Rollo - Pyro info help

    so... I assume that the minimum amount is 75ml also ABC Plus Pyro.
    Does anyone know the development time for the Efke 25 and Efke 100?
    thanks

  10. #10

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Albiate (MB), Italy, EU
    Posts
    11

    Re: Rollo - Pyro info help

    Quote Originally Posted by zone View Post
    so... I assume that the minimum amount is 75ml also ABC Plus Pyro.
    Does anyone know the development time for the Efke 25 and Efke 100?
    thanks
    I obtain good results with Efke PL-100 Rollo Pyro 1+2+100 developing for 7'30" at 24°C in Expert Drum 3006 CPP-2 velocity 3 for diffusion enlarger (N subject, paper iso-range about 85-90 or grad. 3). I use 62.5ml minimum for one single 4x5 film (or 125 ml for one single 5x7 or 250ml for one single 8x10).
    Ciao

Similar Threads

  1. Rollo pyro or Pyrocat HD?
    By Noah B in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 16-May-2013, 10:59
  2. Rollo Pyro experience
    By atlcruiser in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 15-Sep-2011, 14:29
  3. Rollo Pyro
    By argos33 in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 2-May-2011, 15:48
  4. Rollo Pyro and Delta HP+4
    By Harley Goldman in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 12-Feb-2009, 10:00
  5. Rollo Pyro / T-Max 100
    By Mike Kravit in forum Darkroom: Film, Processing & Printing
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 26-Nov-1999, 13:25

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •