ADOBE is on the run, failed at subscribtion

[Kirk Gittings]

A lot of people are hoping the subscriber model will fail and they can go back to buying updates. How many? I have no idea. I actually know someone on their board. The subscriber base is going very well, but they are never going to stop going after the hold outs. I don't know what their "target" subscription participation was/is but it has been a clear success. It doesn't cost them that much to launch such a survey and it reinforces the idea that the subscription is here forever and that they are customer friendly. As a registered "hold out" you can expect various sales pitches and hooks to come your way for a very long time I suspect.

I personally hope there continues to be hoards of holdouts and more importantly competing software. That will drive Adobe to continue to develop their products..

[Oren Grad]

I just received, and completed, a survey from Adobe. It basically was probing interest in Creative Cloud, and asked about desirability of several ways they apparently are considering to make Creative Cloud more attractive. The survey requires non-disclosure, so I won't go into details, but none of the ideas they listed in any way made me want to go onto Creative Cloud.

Ditto. I gave all of the proposed changes the lowest rating, and on one page where they provided a box for an open-ended response I wrote that I'm not interested in buying a subscription to cloud-based software and services.

[Greg Miller]

Ditto. I gave all of the proposed changes the lowest rating, and on one page where they provided a box for an open-ended response I wrote that I'm not interested in buying a subscription to cloud-based software and services.

LOL. They're going to think you and I are the same person...

[rdenney]

My cell phone data speed is faster than that.. Are you sure there's not an issue in your line?

Don't assume cell service is the same everywhere. My 4G service is about 2 or 3 MB/S depending on how many other users around here are hitting it. We have no hard-wire availability, let alone fiber.

And even if it is fast enough, I'm limited on the amount of data I can download each month. And Apple is already doing its best to eat that up.

Software companies are going to big-city models and ignoring rural customers because there are too few of them to care about.

Rick "noting that Swiss Telecomm wanted 20CHF per megabyte for cellular data roaming" Denney

[StoneNYC]

Don't assume cell service is the same everywhere. My 4G service is about 2 or 3 MB/S depending on how many other users around here are hitting it. We have no hard-wire availability, let alone fiber.

And even if it is fast enough, I'm limited on the amount of data I can download each month. And Apple is already doing its best to eat that up.

Software companies are going to big-city models and ignoring rural customers because there are too few of them to care about.

Rick "noting that Swiss Telecomm wanted 20CHF per megabyte for cellular data roaming" Denney

My point was that I was surprised that a HARD WIRED speed was slower than my cell phone speed. That's all.

[Greg Miller]

The very slow hard-wired speeds are still far more common that the fast here in the USA. When I'm working with a business that has more than 10/1, it's always a pleasant surprise. That's true even in NYC. Most places don't have faster speeds available. In areas that do, most people can't stomach the higher fees to get it. I have to pay $70 for 20/2.

[Greg Miller]

There is in effect an informal monopoly of internet providers in the US. Several years a go, Time Warner Cable and Comcast got together, divied up the country, and agreed not to compete in each others' territory's. You have have NYC, we'll take LA. You can have Boston, we'll take San Francisco... That left very little competition, so in most of the country they are free to charge what they want. Now they are merging so it will only get worse.

[Jac@stafford.net]

Most of Europe has better land service speeds than the USA, and why? The USA has lack of competition. You are left to discover why.

[Robert Brummitt]

I'll just continue to use CS3.

[Ron McElroy]

At work we can't run what ever the latest version of CS on our older G5 Macs. This new version needs to run on Mavericks OS and these G5s will not run this OS with out problems. Needless to say we have clients sending in files created in the latest version.