Film prices (Kodak TMY in particular)

[k_redder]

I also noticed while double checking the TMY price at B&H that they list TMY in 8x10 as "discontinued", is that a recent development or something that happened a while back that I just never noticed (since I don't shoot 8x10)?

[StoneNYC]

Myth that you need water stop with Foma. The emulsion is soft but I've used acid stop with no problems. Just be careful with the wet film until it's dry.

Well I will say this, I certainly had some emulsion lifts with mine using ilfostop. And I was told that using a water bath stop would correct for this. I never ended up trying to see, as it wasn't a huge deal, and I decided that I didn't want to go with FOMA anyway as my main film, but it wasn't terrible by any means. And none of the issues had to do with scratching the emulsion.

Anyway we are way off track here I think, sorry about that.

[StoneNYC]

I also noticed while double checking the TMY price at B&H that they list TMY in 8x10 as "discontinued", is that a recent development or something that happened a while back that I just never noticed (since I don't shoot 8x10)?

B&H lists anything "discontinued" they can't get. The film buyer is largely an idiot...

I had to make a fuss to get them to find a way to order Velvia100, because they only had Velvia100f and didn't understand it was different. After that, they said it was discontinued and again I had to argue with the guy and tell him he could still get it... And convinced him by showing him that Adorama had it and that I would have to buy from them instead if he didn't find a way to get some.

So suddenly they had the new box style Velvia100 in stock...

I would email him and be like "why is it showing discontinued! It's not!" And see what he says. At least they respond to emails, though, it takes a few days usually...

[Oren Grad]

B&H lists anything "discontinued" they can't get.

Yes. But in fact, 8x10 TMY was discontinued by Kodak as a regular stock item, and remains special-order only under Kodak Alaris:

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe...pecOrder.jhtml

When B&H shows 8x10 TMY in stock, it likely means that they've decided to invest in a special order. If you watch their sheet film listings carefully you'll see that they do this from time to time - beyond TMY, in recent months I've spotted 5x7 color neg and 4x10 Ilford HP5 Plus and Delta 100 in stock for a while.

[Roger Cole]

Well I will say this, I certainly had some emulsion lifts with mine using ilfostop. And I was told that using a water bath stop would correct for this. I never ended up trying to see, as it wasn't a huge deal, and I decided that I didn't want to go with FOMA anyway as my main film, but it wasn't terrible by any means. And none of the issues had to do with scratching the emulsion.

Anyway we are way off track here I think, sorry about that.

I use a citric acid based stop though I'm not sure that makes any difference.

You can also mix the stop 1/2 strength. It will still be acidic enough to evenly stop development and be less prone to problems if there are any.

I don't think it's really OT much less way OT. Thread is about Kodak film prices, discussion naturally turns to alternatives, it seems not OT to me to talk about how to use those alternatives without issues (though again it seems to me the real alternative is Ilford, not Foma/Arista.)

Edit : Fixed to read "seems NOT OT"

[StoneNYC]

I use a citric acid based stop though I'm not sure that makes any difference.

You can also mix the stop 1/2 strength. It will still be acidic enough to evenly stop development and be less prone to problems if there are any.

I don't think it's really OT much less way OT. Thread is about Kodak film prices, discussion naturally turns to alternatives, it seems OT to me to talk about how to use those alternatives without issues (though again it seems to me the real alternative is Ilford, not Foma/Arista.)

Agreed with all you said.

[dsphotog]

HO:Y CRAP!!!
While we were whining about TMY 8x10 prices, BH quit even listing it!

I hope Ilford stays in business.

[StoneNYC]

HO:Y CRAP!!!
While we were whining about TMY 8x10 prices, BH quit even listing it!

I hope Ilford stays in business.

Ya snooze ya lose!

Ilford is the only company I'm NOT worried about.

[Kodachrome25]

Ya snooze ya lose!

Ilford is the only company I'm NOT worried about.

Please Stone, really?

You can get 8x10 TMY through Canham just like TMX, Ektar, Porta...

I am getting really fed up with this provocative shit man, really, stop being part of the problem and start being a part of the solution...

[dsphotog]

Sometime in the future, people will read this thread and marvel at how cheap film was, in the good ol' days, when it was still being made way back in 2014.

Bottom line, I'm happy to be able to get film at all.
Looks like that digital stuff is catching on.