Boy, how did I miss all of these people talking about me?
I accept the rules. If I did not I would have, I assume, been kicked off the site. Rather, I disagree with the rules, which I do not see as disrespectful.
I notice that a V Bulletin license can be had for under $400.00. Besides the license, what else does one need for a forum like this one. I would imagine a server or two, and some storage space. What else? How much would it cost per month? Perhaps if there were enough members here who would rather participate in a rule free forum, and who would contribute to that goal, we could get one started.
I didn't ask for your assessment or encouragement, neither of which is needed. I asked what it cost.
A good question, Kevin and entirely valid. Hopefully as a member you will not become a victim of intimidation and the thread that of a wrong interpretation.
Oh please, these moderator complaints are so tiresome. In the last year or two there have been page after page of complaints like this. Let it go. The forum is what it is. It costs nothing to join and nothing to leave. If you like the forum then participate. If you don't then don't. If you have complaints with the moderators take them up with the moderators.
Brian Ellis
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you do criticize them you'll be
a mile away and you'll have their shoes.
I agree with Brian.
--P
Preston-Columbia CA
"If you want nice fresh oats, you have to pay a fair price. If you can be satisfied with oats that have already been through the horse; that comes a little cheaper."
Oh please, these complaints against people who complain about moderators are getting tireseom, and especially when the person isn't complaining about the moderators.
I am not complaining about the moderators, and I am not complaining about the site. I love this site, and I have admiration for the moderators (their photographic work). They do their job, just like a police officer does her job.
I just think that a "FORUM" is a place where all people should be heard. Moreover, I think that this philosophy is misunderstood.
I am not for "anarchy" as some have accused. Have you gone to a high school debate lately? Both teams argue vigorously against the other. But nobody ever takes an argument and turns it into a personal ad hominem attack. When they are done they shake hands and say congratulations.
I am for a place where everyone can have their opinion heard, and where everyone respects everyone else.
Of course the comeback to that is: "we have tried that but due to some "bad" people it won't work and therefore we have to have rules". And that is where I differ in my opinion. I would much rather see a free flow of ideas than stifle them, even if it means putting up with something that might be distasteful. Just like I would rather see 100 murderers go free than execute 1 innocent man.
Why? Because even objective rules are enforced subjectively.
I didn't see anyone ask for your questions. Nonetheless, they were asked/presented here. My responses assessing your proposed anarchy forum and providing encouragement to establish it will similarly continue to be presented here, whether you think you need them or not.
Perhaps a venue devoted to the establishment and running of Internet forums might be good place to obtain an answer. This forum is, after all, dedicated to large format photography.
And my response is that even though I don't like what you say (subjective, others might like it), I will say "congratulations", because you got to say what you wanted to say. After all, this part of the forum is the "feedback" forum.
Last edited by Kevin J. Kolosky; 20-May-2013 at 11:31.
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