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Why would you use Efke 25 in this case? If you are ALWAYS shooting with that flash, maybe it makes sense. But if I ever plan to shoot outdoors without flash, I at least want to stop down my Angulon to f/16 at least (maybe f/11 in a pinch if the corners aren't important) and I'll need faster film that if I'm going to hand hold it in anything less than bright sun.Originally Posted by AuditorOne
Rick,
You make an excellent point, and it's one that I've been troubled by with this product: the idea that cropping 4x5 is akin to "zooming in." Sure, but then you've just converted your "large format" 4x5 to a "medium format" 3x4 inch or 6x7/6x9cm. If that's how the camera is intended to be used, then that ought to be clearly understood by everyone--especially given the rules of this site which limit displays of images less than 4x5.
Press photographers could easily crop their images because the print size was so small. One of things I value about large format photography is the ability to print "large" with amazing detail.
Holy cow, I guess I did not read the rules.
Images less than 4X5 not permitted, which explains 'safe haven for small format and Polaroid threads.
Never occured to me shooting 2X3 sheets in holders is too small for here.
Where do I go?
Corran warned me this is a huge problem here.
I won't start, except to say 'scanners'!
Tin Can
But carrying a medium format camera doesn't give you the wide angle option without another lens or zoom and then you are into far more weight and bulk. This will be light, easy to carry, cheap and versatile using this method.
I've never seen anything on this site indicating that cropped images are not allowed, just that they need to be made on film of at least 4x5. Most of mine are at least slightly cropped but then the same is true of my medium format and even 35mm images too.
Don't be so quick to say things "aren't allowed" Michael.
I believe the definition of what is/isn't LF was defined by the mods as taken by a camera that allowed movements and/or sheet film. Or something to that effect. 6x12 and 6x17 images with roll-film holders on a 4x5 or 5x7 camera is most certainly allowed and common.
Oh, I use Arista EDU 100 and FP4+ as well. I may even go looking for some Kodak 100 TMX. I rarely use ISO 320 or 400. But I love the tonality of Efke 25 and a little fill flash can really show that off in the right circumstances. Even with ISO 100 or 125 film I find a bit of fill flash makes for a very nice photo.
Besides, a Christmas project using fill flash in a light, point and shoot 4x5 camera just sounds like a lot of fun. And, who knows, I may find I really like the results.
The Viewfinder is the Soul of the Camera
If you don't believe it, look into an 8x10 viewfinder!
Dan
Bryan,
I did not say images less than 4x5 "aren't allowed;" I said "given the rules of this site which limit displays of images less than 4x5."
So, specifically, the Usage Guidelines state:
"For the purposes of this forum, we define "large format" as being essentially 4x5, or larger, sheet film. We do, however, allow what would otherwise be considered "medium format" sizes, IF exposed in a view camera (e.g. with a roll-film adapter), technical, or old-style press camera (e.g. the various Graphic cameras). "
So, images of less than 4x5 that are NOT exposed in a view camera of 4x5 or larger with a roll-film adapter, or a technical 4x5 view camera, or an old-style press camera would not meet the definition. I would say the Travelwide is not any of these, and that images from a Travelwide that are cropped to 6x7 or 6x9 would not meet the definition. But I will let Rick or one of the other moderators decide this. I don't make the rules, I just know they exist. Hell, you could crop a 4x5 to 35mm size; then what would be the point of this being a LF site at all?
Ben, if you see this, I give up. I tried making a constructive suggestion about expanding the range of your camera. I now regret doing that. At the very least, you know you already have several very loyal supporters for the Travelwide. Best of luck with your production and distribution.
Oh nonsense. It uses 4x5 sheet film in holders. The negative size is 4x5. No one is going to care if it's cropped. That's just picking nits to be a spoil sport. It doesn't say images less than 4x5, it says FILM. No one cares if you don't use all the film area. Do you always print full frame? I certainly don't. The world doesn't always fit in the proportions of my negative, or image size of my lens for that matter.
Silly me, so 2X3 Press cameras shooting sheets are not allowed, according to how I read those rules above.
Specious.
Tin Can
Randy, the way I read the rule, if it is shot in an old-style press camera, it is allowed even if it "would otherwise be considered 'medium format.'" But, again, this is for the moderators to decide.
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